Josh Duggar caught again..... now with an Ashley Madison account (salvation, morality)
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It's good that you know it's not .
Jesus is not there fool and scapegoat .
They have not allowed hI'm to do anything in there lives .
He came to save us FROM our sin , not to save us in it.
Good that you feel that way, since it seems that you wouldn't have any morals without having a god to look to. I, on the other hand, can have morals and not need a god to keep me from raping and pillaging.
You stated that morals change with time . That is a lie you adopted as an excuse .
God's morals never change .
There is no "God's morals". Morality is created, defined, designed, implemented, and executed by Man, and for Man. It is arrived at by utilizing Reason. It a part of the branch of philosophy known as Ethics.
So clearly, genocide, infanticide and rape are not wrong, according to you... Or God commanded Israel to sin. (See Numbers 31) Which is it?
There are a couple of other options. You can say that sometimes rape, infanticide and genocide are moral, but it is situational. That is, morality is relative not absolute... Are you going to take that route? Or you can argue that the Bible is not literally true in this case, that God did not command Moses to do these things, because God wouldn't do that.
To get past the "gotchas", in case you actually want to have a real discussion. If we look at history, we see a huge variety of moral positions that change over time and across cultures. Polygamy has been considered moral in many cultures and times. Slavery was considered moral from antiquity. Vigilante, clan based vengence was considered just. Infanticide was not immoral. Pederasty was considered moral, even desirable. We have countless sets of morality, based on every religious tradition in history, as well as secular, rational, and philosophical considerations.
You can argue that only one of these many incarnations of morality is correct, but then you are left with the task of demonstrating this. How can you prove that it is true? For that matter, can you even define the morality you do consider to be true? It is much harder than it seems...
-NoCapo
You know your bible well.
Now study the 3 days before Jesus rose .
Speaking of which, how long until we find dopey Jim Bob himself on Ashley Madison, or involved in some other hell hole of mystical transmogrification? When Reason is suspended, evil fills the void.
I keep all the laws he convicts me of in my heart when I disobey .
And when I look in the bible they are always there.
So you DO or DON'T keep the laws from the OT?
IF, as you say, gods morals don't change then they would ALL still be in effect. If they aren't then gods morals changed. You can't have it both ways.
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