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Old 08-27-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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Freemasons are a really odd group, and so are Unitarian Universalists. Both require members to believe in God, but have no real requirements for membership other than that.
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Old 08-27-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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Freemasons are a really odd group, and so are Unitarian Universalists. Both require members to believe in God, but have no real requirements for membership other than that.
You've got a chance.
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Old 08-27-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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Old 08-27-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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Freemasons are a really odd group, and so are Unitarian Universalists. Both require members to believe in God, but have no real requirements for membership other than that.
They do? Pretty sure they fellowship atheists.
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Old 08-27-2015, 08:57 PM
 
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They do? Pretty sure they fellowship atheists.
I've met atheists who were encouraged to become Unitarians, but refused because of the religious vibe of their "church" services.
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Old 08-28-2015, 04:29 AM
 
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Freemasons are a really odd group, and so are Unitarian Universalists. Both require members to believe in God, but have no real requirements for membership other than that.
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They do? Pretty sure they fellowship atheists.
I'll let the UU members speak to what they know, but I can tell you absolutely that what you (both of you) said about Freemasons is incorrect.
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Old 08-28-2015, 04:32 AM
 
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I've met atheists who were encouraged to become Unitarians, but refused because of the religious vibe of their "church" services.
Yes. I have a prejudice against the trappings of religion that some unbelievers or irreligious theists (since I was indignant to read an article by a UU minister who seemed to be deprecating about atheists who did not believe in a sortagod) seem to need. But atheists seem fine with using U/U churches as venues and after all, Penn Jillet argued that we should make common cause, not only with "Agnostics" but with irrelegious theists, so I and my prejudice are in the wrong here and I must just try to get over it.

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Old 08-28-2015, 04:52 AM
 
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I've met atheists who were encouraged to become Unitarians, but refused because of the religious vibe of their "church" services.
I know many UU members and have been to many of their functions. The "religious vibe" you've heard about is what a large portion of UU members call "spirituality", not necessarily a belief in any God. One UU minister I know is an admitted atheist, so I believe you're painting with too wide a brush in many of your posts.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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I'll let the UU members speak to what they know, but I can tell you absolutely that what you (both of you) said about Freemasons is incorrect.
You must be a Freemason then, eh? Or a former Freemason?
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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Freemasons are a really odd group, and so are Unitarian Universalists. Both require members to believe in God, but have no real requirements for membership other than that.
Unitarian universalists do not require even a belief in god, they are no longer a creedal religion. All you have to do to join is to sign a membership book.

Last I knew, you are correct about Freemasons, though. You must confess a belief in a supreme being, but since you aren't required AFAIK to sign onto a particular set of beliefs about exactly who that is and what he demands, in practice, it's probably a kind of pointless point. Which is why the UUs dropped that requirement somewhere along the way, I'm sure.
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