Time and the Bible:

[MontanaGuy]

crystal-sea,
I was just reading my post from last night and it sounded a little rude. Sorry, I see you're fairly new to the forum too. I just couldn't figure out what you were saying. MG

[Nikk]

Originally Posted by DimSumRaja

I don't trust the humans that translate the bible, because they are fallible humans that have their own political, social, cultural, and gender agenda; and the church and organized religion is also a political institution with its own power agenda.

What I do trust is the word of God as it is revealed directly to me as you say through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, which is the indwelling Christ. So I have to absolutely agree with you that the truth is revealed and available to us directly and individually.

I just don't need an intermediary or a bunch of old white males telling me what God "really means" to me, I believe the Creator wants each of us to have our own direct personal living relationship. That I trust 1000%

I agree with you needing the personal living relationship, but what white males are you refering too? And what is wrong with a white male? Or an old one? Are you prejedice?

We are all infalible humans, but I think something happens when we connect with the living God. We become something more... we can look at the world and see his hand. We can read dusty old books and hear his voice. We can translate that word into another language and still keep the meaning alive.

[Nikk]

Originally Posted by crystal-sea

hmmmm, the bible says that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.

check it out yourself: 2Peter 3:8


so when it comes to estimating how old the earth is according to the bible, God's mail to man, then from God's perspective the earth is a day old, which is no different to him than zillions of years old.

now for us since God made the animals and vegetation before he made man we had better go and ask the lions, tigers, and bears first.


tee-hee-hee

This is a classic example of taking the bible out of context and creating a doctrine using a small portion of scripture out of context and without concern to the entire text.

This text is refering to Gods patience in waiting for one unbeliever to be saved. This text is not saying anything about the length of a day.

The operative word here is "as" which is a comparison. It is like my wife saying that my snoring is "as" if I was cutting logs with a chainsaw. I am not actually cutting logs and there is no chainsaw in my bedroom.

"As" is not "IS", so this theory is thrown out. We also must take a day to be a day because Genesis has already defined a day as having an "evening" and a "morning". So reguardless to how the days appear to God they are still days and he still created everything in six of them.