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That's because no one or nothing created God. He's eternal and has always existed. The cosmological argument demonstrates that an uncaused cause is required to exist that started the whole thing off.
Wrong.
The cosmological argument demonstrates that The Invisible Burrito Creature is required to exist to start the whole thing off.
Get it right.
09-16-2015, 03:22 PM
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You really need to account for how those base building blocks got here. Until then you're grasping at straws. Even then, go ahead -- demonstrate that it works.
Oh really, or we have to resort to god-dun-it? You don't have anything close to an account of how god-dun-it other than he spoke a magic incantation and poof - out came everything from nothing. Yeah, that's the alternative story you want to believe if someone can not account for something. And then when someone give a piece of evidence, like in the OP, you just move the goal posts. Complete bullocks! You are a joke of hypocrisy Vizio demanding such things from others while excusing yourself from the same standards of demonstration.
If you want to call that your cause, good on you. You're now a theist.
Indeed!
By the way...anyone who doesn't believe in the Invisible Burrito Monster will be tortured for eternity after they die. So believe in him...or else!
09-16-2015, 03:27 PM
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That's basically what abiogenesis is. One moment life doesn't exist, the next moment it does due to some chemicals that happen to combine.
What don't you understand about the above highlighted part as a CAUSE?
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I'm sorry, but I've not seen that explained.
So what! Who said it has all been explained. All this thread is about certain pieces in the puzzle being demonstrated. Where is you demonstration of how god-dun-it? Oh, you don't have one other the Genesis story!
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Having said that, how do you account for ANYTHING existing in the universe?
Matter/energy is eternally transforming.
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It beats the heck out of anything I've seen you suggest.
See above!
09-16-2015, 03:29 PM
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And that's any different at all than "abiogenesisdidit"? Or "randomchancedidit"?
I'm sorry, I just don't have your faith. You atheists believe the most incredible things by faith.
We are mile ahead of you is out evidence Vizio! You have zero, zilch, nadda!
We are mile ahead of you is out evidence Vizio! You have zero, zilch, nadda!
You still have not answered the most basic of questions though -- such as who/what started it all. Until that, you've got zero, zilch, nadda!
09-16-2015, 03:32 PM
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Until you can come with a reasonable explanation for how the universe got here, the logical assumption would be that something caused/created it.
So let's apply this to your God. Unless you can come up with a reasonable explanation for how God got here the logical assumption would be that something caused/created it.
See how illogical you sound!
09-16-2015, 03:33 PM
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You still have not answered the most basic of questions though -- such as who/what started it all. Until that, you've got zero, zilch, nadda!
Already did you are not paying attention! As usual!
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