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Old 10-01-2015, 02:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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Well, duh. They are the SCOTUS. Their job is to look at what the Constitution says and decide the constitutionality of laws. Their decision then becomes law.

Constitution
SCOTUS

Not the same. Not going to change no matter how loud the far-right fundies complain when they don't get their way. This country is based on the rule of law.... not the rules of unhappy fundamentalists.
I'm sometimes accused of being some kind of anarchist since I'm an atheist. Quite the contrary. The rule of law is the only thing protecting people like me (and you) from people like Vizio.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:55 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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But they are not the Constitution.
Read Article III of the Constitution.

It gives SCOTUS the right, obligation and power to be the final arbitrator of what the Constitution says, means and is interpreted.

It's in the Constitution.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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Well, duh. They are the SCOTUS. Their job is to look at what the Constitution says and decide the constitutionality of laws. Their decision then becomes law.

Constitution
SCOTUS

Not the same. Not going to change no matter how loud the far-right fundies complain when they don't get their way. This country is based on the rule of law.... not the rules of unhappy fundamentalists.
The SCOTUS read it into the Constitution. But it was never there.
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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The SCOTUS read it into the Constitution. But it was never there.
Doesn't need to be. It is their STATE of OKLAHOMA constitution. That is the one their STATE supreme court ruled on. Has NOTHING to do with the US constitution.
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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I say leave up the 10 Commandments as long as I can put up 10 suggestions for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Same thing. And quotes from the Koran, and Hindu prayers etc. Whoops, I think we will need more area.
Atheists mock us for believing in the Bible in which there is zero evidence that any authors just made up the accounts yet they keep claiming belief in the FSM which has clear evidence that it is just a product of fiction.

Go figure.
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Atheists mock us for believing in the Bible in which there is zero evidence that any authors just made up the accounts yet they keep claiming belief in the FSM which has clear evidence that it is just a product of fiction.

Go figure.
Doesn't matter. It is a religion to the people who think it is. Same with your religion. If you allow one, you have to allow them all. Take FSM out of the equation. Are you okay with every recognized religion having a place of the same size on government property? If you say no, you prove you don't care about religious freedom, you care about Christian freedom. Say yes, and, well, okay. Let's do it! It would make government buildings so much more interesting!
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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Atheists mock us for believing in the Bible in which there is zero evidence that any authors just made up the accounts yet they keep claiming belief in the FSM which has clear evidence that it is just a product of fiction.

Go figure.

Humour perhaps?
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Old 10-01-2015, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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But they are not the Constitution.
The US constitution is not the reason that OK is removing this monument. The OK constitution is the reason, and it is more specific about this issue than the US constitution.
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Old 10-01-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Except that the Constitution doesn't demand it. Nowhere in it does it say that there should be one.
The state constitution explicitly does demand it, and that was what the court ruled on.
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Old 10-01-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Atheists mock us for believing in the Bible in which there is zero evidence that any authors just made up the accounts yet they keep claiming belief in the FSM which has clear evidence that it is just a product of fiction.

Go figure.
If this wasn't so funny to read... it would be funny.

Jeff, the hilarity of your statements I am sure escapes you, but this sounded it could have been a Yogi Berraism. (recently departed)
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