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Old 10-30-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Their mother must be exceptionally bright.
Based on what? Who she married?

Probably skipped a generation and the kids benefited from their grandparents?

Anyone set up a punnet square and figure the probability?

 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Eusebius
Don't have to. My kids are Mensa geniuses.
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Their mother must be exceptionally bright.
She is and so am I. I just don't like to brag about it.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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She is and so am I. I just don't like to brag about it.
It wouldn't matter much if you did.

People do occasionally read your posts and can discern the truth.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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False hope and lies would only work in the short term. The placebo effect is definitely statistically real, but so is the idea that things that "scientifically work" should surpass a mere equivalency of efficacy with the placebo effect. False hope is beloved by many, but also seen by many as an insult. And an insult can hardly ever "placebo" you to betterment.

We all can do as we see fit if it's not physically damaging to others or other legitimate types of damaging, but we all also have the right to say "we all SHOULD use this cane or we are wrong," and then explain why.
lies are different then false hope. Intentionally deceiving people and trying to help do have different 'life spans". "religion" is really like a boat. when some reach the yonder shore we may not need it ever again. But some do need it the rest of their lives. Dishonest use of a religion as a weapon is bad. Honest use is fine.

I don't do we all have a right to an opinion. that's bs. "my Omni dude" and "there is nothing" are blind faith statements that do not have any observational evidence.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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finding new medicine is not science? wow.

thats like the big toe claiming the pinking aint a body part.
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Of course it is...it's an applied science.
Science is universal, Medicine is not.

The fact that Medicine might use scientific methods and principles does not make it Science. Psychology, Sociology, History, Geography and some facets of Economics use scientific procedures or methods, but that does not make them Science.

Is there ever a time when Sodium (Na) and Chorline (Cl) does not equal table salt?

No, never.

Is there ever a time when 2 + 2 does not equal 4? No, never.

If Medicine would be Science, then no patient who underwent treatment would ever die.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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She is and so am I. I just don't like to brag about it.


Yeah, your posts absolutely drip with intelligence


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Old 10-30-2015, 07:22 PM
 
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Science is universal, Medicine is not.

The fact that Medicine might use scientific methods and principles does not make it Science. Psychology, Sociology, History, Geography and some facets of Economics use scientific procedures or methods, but that does not make them Science.

Is there ever a time when Sodium (Na) and Chorline (Cl) does not equal table salt?

No, never.

Is there ever a time when 2 + 2 does not equal 4? No, never.

If Medicine would be Science, then no patient who underwent treatment would ever die.
no patient who underwent treatment would never die. hmmmmm, dont think so. Administering medicine and treating patients is different than reaching cures or studying how things work. I am not so sure the research part is not science. Biomedical research is science to me.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Science is universal, Medicine is not.

The fact that Medicine might use scientific methods and principles does not make it Science. Psychology, Sociology, History, Geography and some facets of Economics use scientific procedures or methods, but that does not make them Science.

Is there ever a time when Sodium (Na) and Chorline (Cl) does not equal table salt?

No, never.

Is there ever a time when 2 + 2 does not equal 4? No, never.

If Medicine would be Science, then no patient who underwent treatment would ever die.
Medicine is absolutely science. Have you ever heard of a Clinical Laboratory Scientist? Or a Molecular Diagnostician? Both of these professions work in the medical field and require a scientific degree.

Every test that is used to analyze patient samples uses science to get the result.

Every test performed on patents must go through strict validation protocols to ensure that the test is scientifically sound and robust.

All medical devices work via scientific processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine

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Contemporary medicine applies biomedical sciences, biomedical research, genetics and medical technology to diagnose, treat, and prevent injury and disease, typically through pharmaceuticals or surgery, but also through therapies as diverse as psychotherapy, external splints and traction, prostheses, biologics, and ionizing radiation, amongst others.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 08:05 PM
 
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I would say that medical researchers are scientists, but medical doctors aren't, in the same way physicists are scientists but engineers aren't.

Doctors and engineers are highly skilled technicians, but they typically use the results of scientific research rather than advance scientific knowledge.

Medicine would definitely be a science based field. The fact that things don't always go perfectly would be caused by everyone's biology being different. Our unique combination of height, weight, gender, allergies, health levels, diet, age, etc is going to mean that every medical treatment or drug is going to react just a bit differently on every person. Given enough DNA mapping and data collection on a person's exact physiology it should be possible to predict things more accurately, but we aren't there quite yet.
 
Old 10-30-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
Science is universal, Medicine is not.

The fact that Medicine might use scientific methods and principles does not make it Science. Psychology, Sociology, History, Geography and some facets of Economics use scientific procedures or methods, but that does not make them Science.

Is there ever a time when Sodium (Na) and Chorline (Cl) does not equal table salt?

No, never.

Is there ever a time when 2 + 2 does not equal 4? No, never.

If Medicine would be Science, then no patient who underwent treatment would ever die.
Not an exact science or a pure science, like what you note in comparison...but an applied science, and thus science nonetheless.
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