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Old 10-29-2015, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I'm a confirmed Lutheran and Martin Luther condoned prostitutes. Or so I was taught. It was somewhere in the bible.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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I'm a confirmed Lutheran and Martin Luther condoned prostitutes. Or so I was taught. It was somewhere in the bible.
That's interesting - I hadn't heard that one, but I'm not very knowledgeable on Luther. There is a quote that floats around the web from him:
The word and works of God is quite clear, that women were made either to be wives or prostitutes.
(Luther's Commentary on I Corinthians 7 - see below)
It may be out of context. He is railing against those "rascals" who proclaim to follow Paul's wishes that one be celibate, yet are the least celibate of anyone - frequenting brothels. In his typical misogynistic way, he sees women as being created for one purpose: marriage, and not merely for sex. He then seemingly says that if women are unable to have sex within marriage, their only other option is unfortunately fornication, or prostitution. He says:
But since God’s work and Word stare us in the face, declaring that women must be used either for marriage or for fornication, these heathenish pretenders should shut their blasphemous mouths and leave God’s Word and work uncriticized and unhampered; unless perhaps they would like to teach us according to their own famed sagacity and contrary to God that all women should be strangled or banished. This would make a fine fool of God: what He does is no good; what we do is well done. [LW 28:5]
(From Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Luther: Women were made either to be wives or prostitutes, which has more information)

So it doesn't seem as if he is condoning prostitution as such - merely hinting that one's biological urges should lead one to marriage - contra the "celibates" who appeal to Paul - rather than fornication.

I'm glad you brought that up, it was an interesting tidbit - if not a bit misogynistic. Is this the quote you may have heard>?
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Hey ---- Solomon knew what he was talking about.

(this Proverb was probably written after he killed Uriah and got busted for nailing Bathsheba).
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:58 AM
 
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Hey ---- Solomon knew what he was talking about.

(this Proverb was probably written after he killed Uriah and got busted for nailing Bathsheba).
Heh, I hope Solomon didn't conceive himself - you're thinking of that rascal David.
But yes, Solomon was certainly ... "fluent" in the knowledge of women.

Besides that, the actual "Solomonic" proverbs begin in chapter 10 - we don't really know who collected the various teachings and maxims beginning in 1:8 after the editorial introduction, and running up to chapter 10.
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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Oh Jesus...you are RIGHT!


bahahaaa!


Oh well, i was close.

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Heh, I hope Solomon didn't conceive himself - you're thinking of that rascal David.
But yes, Solomon was certainly ... "fluent" in the knowledge of women.

Besides that, the actual "Solomonic" proverbs begin in chapter 10 - we don't really know who collected the various teachings and maxims beginning in 1:8 after the editorial introduction, and running up to chapter 10.
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Old 11-02-2015, 11:16 PM
 
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Oh Jesus...you are RIGHT!


bahahaaa!


Oh well, i was close.
Ha ha what's a generation between friends?
Throw Mary into the mix, and you have the makings of some later Christian theologies where God fathered himself.
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Old 11-02-2015, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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That's interesting - I hadn't heard that one, but I'm not very knowledgeable on Luther. ...

I'm glad you brought that up, it was an interesting tidbit - if not a bit misogynistic. Is this the quote you may have heard>?
I don't think so. It was something about visiting prostitutes and not wasting the seed.
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