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Old 10-28-2015, 12:45 PM
 
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I was raised fundamentalist and I think of myself as a step beyond none. I am so done. Had I been exposed to a God capable of actual unconditional love I might have kept that belief system. Growing up it never clicked with me that I was special in any way. Sitting outside the classroom with my back to the wall while the other kids were inside celebrating Christmas or a birthday cinched who I really was. I wanted to be a regular kid. That is the worst thing a fundie kid can be...worldly ...gasp! Plus I had hurt the feelings of the Almighty himself, who does that? In retrospect, if God's emotional well being hinges on the thoughts of an 8 year old, he has issues. It was impossible for me to reconcile that with my belief system so I concluded there was something wrong with me and not the belief system. Because that's what kids do, they internalize.

When they used that scripture about the narrow gate and few who find it, I was absolutely convinced I was doomed. Why me? I see just about every fundie sect all over that one. How is it they cannot be tricked, only others? I never understood what these people thought they had that others didn't. Probably because I don't have it. Hellafreakingluya.

So yeah, I see this particular subset of Christianity being relegated to a lunatic fringe soon. Society is changing and the whole point of the fundie is to reject man's way of doing things. It is starting to conflict with the way they use the bible.
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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First you say this -


Then you say this -


Do you seriously not see the problem here?

You are asserting that Yahweh revealed himself to some people several thousand years ago.

I quote your own words back at you - "Sorry but just saying so is not proving so."
But we have historic documents thousands of years old which recorded these encounters of Yahweh with individuals. So it is not just "saying so and not proving so." You would have to re-educate the entire Israelite population to believe like you.
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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"Wart" is hardly a flattering term, you are more like a.. a.. ok, wart.
"Sword in the Stone" A Disney animation classic from 1963. Merlin called the young King Arthur "Wart". Nothing wrong with being a wart. It's all in the perspective.
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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The Muslims agree. But they believe that the One True God is actually Allah, and not the Christian Trinitarian God.

Is there some experiment we could run in order to determine which God is real?
Allah (Arabic) and Eloah (Hebrew) are one and the same. Just slightly different pronunciation. The Eloah of Israel is the one True God, not a Trinitarian God.

And just because some factions of Christianity believe in Trinitarianism does not prove it is correct nor does it prove Christianity is wrong on all points.
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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I was raised fundamentalist and I think of myself as a step beyond none. I am so done. Had I been exposed to a God capable of actual unconditional love I might have kept that belief system. Growing up it never clicked with me that I was special in any way. Sitting outside the classroom with my back to the wall while the other kids were inside celebrating Christmas or a birthday cinched who I really was. I wanted to be a regular kid. That is the worst thing a fundie kid can be...worldly ...gasp! Plus I had hurt the feelings of the Almighty himself, who does that? In retrospect, if God's emotional well being hinges on the thoughts of an 8 year old, he has issues. It was impossible for me to reconcile that with my belief system so I concluded there was something wrong with me and not the belief system. Because that's what kids do, they internalize.

When they used that scripture about the narrow gate and few who find it, I was absolutely convinced I was doomed. Why me? I see just about every fundie sect all over that one. How is it they cannot be tricked, only others? I never understood what these people thought they had that others didn't. Probably because I don't have it. Hellafreakingluya.

So yeah, I see this particular subset of Christianity being relegated to a lunatic fringe soon. Society is changing and the whole point of the fundie is to reject man's way of doing things. It is starting to conflict with the way they use the bible.
Too bad you didn't find out about Concordant Publishing Concern at Concordant Publishing Concern or Saviour of All Fellowship at Saviour of all Fellowship, universal reconciliation, salvation of all mankind

You would know God is a God of unconditional love Who will eventually save all mankind.
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Old 10-28-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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Allah (Arabic) and Eloah (Hebrew) are one and the same. Just slightly different pronunciation. The Eloah of Israel is the one True God, not a Trinitarian God.

And just because some factions of Christianity believe in Trinitarianism does not prove it is correct nor does it prove Christianity is wrong on all points.
Ok, so that means you accept the Quran as well as the Bible? Which book is right about Allah/God?
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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Ok, so that means you accept the Quran as well as the Bible? Which book is right about Allah/God?
Whichever one that is correct.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:36 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Too bad you didn't find out about Concordant Publishing Concern at Concordant Publishing Concern or Saviour of All Fellowship at Saviour of all Fellowship, universal reconciliation, salvation of all mankind

You would know God is a God of unconditional love Who will eventually save all mankind.
That may have worked with my personality. My final prayer was to tell God I forgave him for having to destroy me. I loved him anyway. Somebody has to play the part of unbeliever, wicked, and apostate in this game, right? At least I knew what role I was playing. Then I let the whole God situation go.

Matthew 7:13

13"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

There are going to be some surprised people.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Whichever one that is correct.
Thanks for being ambivalent.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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But we have historic documents thousands of years old which recorded these encounters of Yahweh with individuals. So it is not just "saying so and not proving so." You would have to re-educate the entire Israelite population to believe like you.
But the Song of Inanna is a historical document that is even older. And there are people worshipping her today.
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