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I don't think so, and it wasn't meant as derroguetory either. Fundementilists are by their very definition socially conservative. Conservative by it's definition is to keep things the way they are. That is the opposite of being "open minded" is it not? "Open Minded" is being open to change; being conservative is being closed to change.
My post was more in the spirit that I thought asking a conservative to have an open mind was kind of funny.
That's right, you tell him...we know ALL those Christians are conservatives! Get em!
I don't think so, and it wasn't meant as derroguetory either. Fundementilists are by their very definition socially conservative. Conservative by it's definition is to keep things the way they are. That is the opposite of being "open minded" is it not? "Open Minded" is being open to change; being conservative is being closed to change.
My post was more in the spirit that I thought asking a conservative to have an open mind was kind of funny.
I'm a fundamentalists, at least by the true definition.
I also consider myself a conservative.
But I am constantly looking at change and seeking a fresh approach to things.
I'm a fundamentalists, at least by the true definition.
I also consider myself a conservative.
But I am constantly looking at change and seeking a fresh approach to things.
My mind certainly isn't closed.
The perception is that, on the whole, the Christian Right is not progressive and thus is not open minded. I don't believe everyone who is Christian and a conservative is this way; however, I'm just telling you what the general perception is.
It does make sense however that if you use your religion as a guide for what is good for the whole society then you probably won't be open minded.
Thats where the Christian right gets labled as "being up in peoples business" because ultimately they want what is best for their beliefs and not what is best for everybody involved..
The perception is that, on the whole, the Christian Right is not progressive and thus is not open minded. I don't believe everyone who is Christian and a conservative is this way; however, I'm just telling you what the general perception is.
It does make sense however that if you use your religion as a guide for what is good for the whole society then you probably won't be open minded.
Thats where the Christian right gets labled as "being up in peoples business" because ultimately they want what is best for their beliefs and not what is best for everybody involved..
Again.. just my opinion..
I took victorytampa's comments to be very general and not directed solely at the political aspects of any of those labels.
Perhaps he did only mean in the political arena.
( I just realized I hardly ever 'talk' like I type...I don't think I hardly ever mutter the word 'perhaps'. Oh well, just an observation)
I took victorytampa's comments to be very general and not directed solely at the political aspects of any of those labels.
Perhaps he did only mean in the political arena.
( I just realized I hardly ever 'talk' like I type...I don't think I hardly ever mutter the word 'perhaps'. Oh well, just an observation)
But the two (religions and political arena) are one in the same for the Christian right. At least very closely tied together. Again.. just my perception.
I'm glad someone else has noticed this, it realy bugs me too. for awhile they got realy bad at trying to pull in those interested in "newage" kinds of things, falsly tittleing there programs. what irks me is the dishonesty of it, I'm sure if you called them on it they would say "oh we didn't lie" pointing to the words and ignoring there dishonest intent to decieve
I agree completely. I was just thinking the other day that I have never been more anti-religion than since I moved to the US. I grew up, like many Germans, with an indifferent tolerance to religion. I had no problems with people who were religious, but was not religious myself. Live and let live, to each his own.
However, when I moved to the US, and religion was constantly put in my face, it became very annoying. Sometimes I think it makes one into an ugly person, because before, my image of e.g. Christians had been that they do some good charity work, that they are nice people etc. However, once you have encountered American fundamentalism, that all changes. I really have to keep reminding myself these days that there are plenty of wonderful Christians out there as well.
I don't think that many fundamentalists realize that they accomplish exactly the opposite of what they try to achieve. I have never been further from religion than here in America.
I agree. I grew up in an area where there were some religious people but most really didn't care or were, as you said, indifferently tolerant to religion. Then I moved to Fundamentalistville, and boy, it sure makes you wonder if there is a god! The ultra-religious really do get tiresome and annoying, sometimes its hard not to laugh when they start babbling at you. I want to say "But didn't they tell you the Easter Bunny isn't real????"
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