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Old 11-14-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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Have you ever seen a person with split personalities appear as 3 persons in the same place?
Then it is three different people or Gods. You can't have it both ways. The Bible says that Jesus and God are two different things, It repeats over and over that Jesus is the SON of God.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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Have you ever seen a person with split personalities appear as 3 persons in the same place?
You haven't either.

Nor has anyone else credible seen three people who are one person.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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This is a Messianic Website...So, it will be biased...
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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I like this explanation for God and the Holy Spirit. But God the Father and God the Son .... ? Jesus himself proclaimed that he was not God (if what is written in the bible is correct).
If you're asking my opinion, I think it's possible that a man named Jesus was so in tune with the reign of God within him - possessing a holy spirit which originates with a God who is love - that he veritably manifested God to the world (whether as a real historical figure, or simply as a literary device, I do not know).
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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I don't believe you can separate God into parts. It has been convenient to think the Holy Spirit is everywhere, in churches, in preachers ("holy people,"), in nature, in humans, and in our hopes and dreams. In my opinion, it is a very misused religious term. Our local preacher justifies sermons by saying the Holy Spirit told him so. Who would dare question the Holy Spirit?

According to church history, the trinity came from the Catholic Church. I don't find much support for the concept in the Bible. As for God saying in Genesis, "make man in our image, in our likeness," I believe the plural was meant to refer to God's duality. Yes, I know, no one believes God is a duality. Well, it could also be in reference to God and His angels. In either case, it was in reference to heavenly creatures. Again, I don't believe Jesus was the son of God, he was God. So, that also removes the son of God from the trinity. What remains is the duality of God. We could call God, your royal duality. Now, I am in big trouble.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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I don't believe you can separate God into parts. It has been convenient to think the Holy Spirit is everywhere, in churches, in preachers ("holy people,"), in nature, in humans, and in our hopes and dreams. In my opinion, it is a very misused religious term. Our local preacher justifies sermons by saying the Holy Spirit told him so. Who would dare question the Holy Spirit?

According to church history, the trinity came from the Catholic Church. I don't find much support for the concept in the Bible. As for God saying in Genesis, "make man in our image, in our likeness," I believe the plural was meant to refer to God's duality. Yes, I know, no one believes God is a duality. Well, it could also be in reference to God and His angels. In either case, it was in reference to heavenly creatures. Again, I don't believe Jesus was the son of God, he was God. So, that also removes the son of God from the trinity. What remains is the duality of God. We could call God, your royal duality. Now, I am in big trouble.
But doesn't the Bible call Jesus "the son of God"? And many Christians insist that the Bible is the infallible, literal word of God, so you calling God a liar.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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I don't believe you can separate God into parts. It has been convenient to think the Holy Spirit is everywhere, in churches, in preachers ("holy people,"), in nature, in humans, and in our hopes and dreams. In my opinion, it is a very misused religious term. Our local preacher justifies sermons by saying the Holy Spirit told him so. Who would dare question the Holy Spirit?

According to church history, the trinity came from the Catholic Church. I don't find much support for the concept in the Bible. As for God saying in Genesis, "make man in our image, in our likeness," I believe the plural was meant to refer to God's duality. Yes, I know, no one believes God is a duality. Well, it could also be in reference to God and His angels. In either case, it was in reference to heavenly creatures. Again, I don't believe Jesus was the son of God, he was God. So, that also removes the son of God from the trinity. What remains is the duality of God. We could call God, your royal duality. Now, I am in big trouble.

Trinity formulation - 325CE

Jesus said that he was the son of G-d...
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Old 11-14-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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I wonder if that is what is meant when G-d states that he will write his laws on their hearts?...Because if they are in your heart then they are second nature to you...
The "law" of love, perhaps?
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Old 11-14-2015, 01:03 PM
 
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Trinity formulation - 325CE

Jesus said that he was the son of G-d...
So that makes at least two entities.
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Old 11-14-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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I don't believe you can separate God into parts. It has been convenient to think the Holy Spirit is everywhere, in churches, in preachers ("holy people,"), in nature, in humans, and in our hopes and dreams. In my opinion, it is a very misused religious term. Our local preacher justifies sermons by saying the Holy Spirit told him so. Who would dare question the Holy Spirit?

According to church history, the trinity came from the Catholic Church. I don't find much support for the concept in the Bible. As for God saying in Genesis, "make man in our image, in our likeness," I believe the plural was meant to refer to God's duality. Yes, I know, no one believes God is a duality. Well, it could also be in reference to God and His angels. In either case, it was in reference to heavenly creatures. Again, I don't believe Jesus was the son of God, he was God. So, that also removes the son of God from the trinity. What remains is the duality of God. We could call God, your royal duality. Now, I am in big trouble.
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