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Old 11-24-2015, 11:06 AM
 
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Oh, I see. If the Bible "drives countless people to madness and suicide " then it should be removed, but if it saves only 1 life, then it should stay.... So saving one person because of the Bible is more important than 1 life taken because of it. Gotcha...


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the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
Setting up a trap hypocrisy question that is not based in reality = intellectual dishonesty.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:07 AM
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That doesn't give you the right to deface a donated Bible with a message of hate for the Bible.
Clearly not everyone agrees with you that it is defacement. As Vizio indicated, the Bible remains usable.

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This shows me that the interest is not in protecting legal boundaries, but a pure personal resentment towards the Word of God.
That's nonsense. Such self-ratifying silliness indicates that you're not willing to discuss the matter rationally.

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If you REALLY want to do that, knock yourself out. Honestly, I can think of better things to spend my time and money on...but whatever floats your boat.
I'm just talking about what is and isn't legitimate. I'm talking about right and wrong, not what I myself am interested in doing personally. Unlike some other folks, I can have a moral perspective without acting out in behaviors that are antisocial.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Setting up a trap hypocrisy question that is not based in reality = intellectual dishonesty.
How is it not based in reality? That is what YOU said. You specifically said that they should stay if they would save even 1 life. You then said that the only reason that they should be taken out is if they "drive countless people to madness and suicide". Do you not see the hypocrisy there?
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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Clearly not everyone agrees with you that it is defacement. As Vizio indicated, the Bible remains usable.

That's nonsense. Such self-ratifying silliness indicates that you're not willing to discuss the matter rationally.


I'm just talking about what is and isn't legitimate. I'm talking about right and wrong, not what I myself am interested in doing personally.
I think Jeff is absolutely correct. Going to the extreme of attaching one's own message does demonstrate a hatred for the Bible.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:14 AM
 
Location: USA
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Atheism drives people to suicide because there is no hope in your version of reality. NONE.
I no longer need "hope" since I am no longer a miserable Christian fundamentalist who was taught to hate himself.

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Old 11-24-2015, 11:15 AM
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Going to the extreme of attaching one's own message does demonstrate a hatred for the Bible.
Have you see the stickers? I don't remember, but I think they are explicit about condemning "LITERAL" interpretation of the Bible, rather than condemning the Bible itself, as it should be used, as parable.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Have you see the stickers? I don't remember, but I think they are explicit about condemning "LITERAL" interpretation of the Bible, rather than condemning the Bible itself, as it should be used, as parable.
Wait...weren't you the one that was talking about a bound packet of info to attach to the front cover? Not just a little sticker.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:34 AM
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Wait...weren't you the one that was talking about a bound packet of info to attach to the front cover? Not just a little sticker.
Yes that was me. I didn't describe what the pamphlet would include. Imagine it were just a summary of the Book of Mormon, or of the Qur'an. Or a pamphlet that outlines how the Bible is parable and shouldn't be taken literally, along with some additional references to materials that readers should consider just as valid sources of spiritual wisdom, such as Eastern texts, Native American folklore, etc.
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Old 11-24-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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I no longer need hope since I am no longer a miserable Christian fundamentalist who was taught to hate himself.
Now you need to learn to love yourself.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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I no longer need "hope" since I am no longer a miserable Christian fundamentalist who was taught to hate himself.
If you were miserable and hated yourself as a Christian then you were doing it wrong.
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