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Old 11-30-2015, 06:55 AM
 
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No I'm making the assumption that natural selection should retain the advantageous traits, not discard them.
That is a poor and baseless assumption to make. Natural Selection is an economizer. It will "happily" discard things that are no longer required or necessary in order to minimize the usage of resources. It has no foresight or plan or goal.

The trait has to be _actually_ advantageous. Not just one you personally feel would be better to have. And in terms of the things you listed, none of them confer enough of an advantage, especially since the advent of culture and clothing, to warrant keeping them.

So you can list all day traits that would be "better" to have, but in the end they have to be more than just "better", they have to genuinely have an impact on reproductive success at a species level, not just at the level of one or two individuals who stubbed their toe one day.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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You know, I kinda like this thread.
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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It is an interesting puzzle, isn't it … ???

I think of the oddity of some guy who HATES "baseball," doesn't want to watch it or play it himself, but who minutely complains about "The Rules of Baseball" and wants the game abandoned or even banned …

*shrug*
I dunno … Go Figure ...
Only if "baseball" was trying to force everyone to play, or at the very least, watch and listen. Only if it were trying to get laws passed and drag our society back several decades.


Analogies like this only go to prove that you guys have no clue how the other side thinks, and why we say and do the things we do.


I could turn it around on you and say this:


I think the oddity of some guy who LOVES "baseball", wants to watch it and play it himself, but who minutely complains about "the people who don't love it" but wants the game to be played or watched by everyone.


That is more in line with your ilk's thinking than your analogy with ours.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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Only if "baseball" was trying to force everyone to play, or at the very least, watch and listen. Only if it were trying to get laws passed and drag our society back several decades.


Analogies like this only go to prove that you guys have no clue how the other side thinks, and why we say and do the things we do.


I could turn it around on you and say this:


I think the oddity of some guy who LOVES "baseball", wants to watch it and play it himself, but who minutely complains about "the people who don't love it" but wants the game to be played or watched by everyone.


That is more in line with your ilk's thinking than your analogy with ours.
As if some Atheist don't push and promote their ideology on others?
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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The why are human beings so adapted poorly for survival? Even primates have better survival physical bodies. They are stronger physically and have thick padded feet. Human beings? Without shoes, our feet would be a mess. Why would evolution evolve humans with weaker feet and sensitive skin that burns easily under the sun? Looks like the opposite should have occurred.

Human beings are much more susceptible to disease and cancer than even our supposely primate relatives.
If we really evolved from primates then evolution really sucks at survival.
Says the guy whose species lives on every continent in nearly every conceivable habitat and is respoonsible for causing the extinction of thousand upon thousands of other species.

Humans are probably the best adapted for survival of any of the higher order species. I think we could still learn a thing or two from cockroaches, though.
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Says the guy whose species lives on every continent in nearly every conceivable habitat and is respoonsible for causing the extinction of thousand upon thousands of other species.

Humans are probably the best adapted for survival of any of the higher order species. I think we could still learn a thing or two from cockroaches, though.
Seems like evolution adapts every other species towards their environment, but it just one day decided, hey let's make humans were they can survive anywhere on a variety of food. Sure seems like evolution has a mind behind it.
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Old 11-30-2015, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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As if some Atheist don't push and promote their ideology on others?
If by "push and promote" you mean keeping you guys (Not you specifically, but the religious in general) from establishing a theocracy, then yea, we do. If wanting the world to be a better a place, and have educated children, and equal rights, and so on is a bad thing, then I think you should look in the mirror. You are the problem.
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Old 11-30-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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God knows best.

He wants us humble, in pain, and vulnerable as much as possible.
The Parable of the Testicles
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:03 PM
 
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If by "push and promote" you mean keeping you guys (Not you specifically, but the religious in general) from establishing a theocracy, then yea, we do. If wanting the world to be a better a place, and have educated children, and equal rights, and so on is a bad thing, then I think you should look in the mirror. You are the problem.
There u go. Just proved my point.
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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If by "push and promote" you mean keeping you guys (Not you specifically, but the religious in general) from establishing a theocracy, then yea, we do. If wanting the world to be a better a place, and have educated children, and equal rights, and so on is a bad thing, then I think you should look in the mirror. You are the problem.
Your side is doing a fabulous job at making the world a worse place. I feel sorry for the future generations.
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