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Old 12-20-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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Bec ause I encountered this consciousness in deep meditation and it is undeniably ONE with everything that exists. I "know " it is God, period.
Nah....don't believe you. Now what? Which one of us is right? How would we know? Is there some sort of way to know?
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Old 12-20-2015, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Your problem is that you have too low of a view of God. You somehow seem to think that some are more worthy of heaven than others. Once you realize how great God is that even the "good people" are utterly incapable of being "good" in God's eyes -- and he is THAT HOLY.....we realize that one person's offense is not so much less than another's in comparison to God's holiness.
This would be the god that created mankind, then slaughtered mankind, then had his chosen people slaughter other men and women and babies for him because, apparently, he found it more amusing to make others do it for him than do it himself.

He is lazy as well as narcissistic, genocidal, immoral and psychotic.
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Old 12-20-2015, 06:51 PM
 
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Yeah, as long as one is "saved" before croaking, all's OK, right?
In Judaism that child murderer would never have gotten resurrected let alone gone to heave, he would just cease to exist after death...That is one of the three outcomes for the three categories of individuals...
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Old 12-20-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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Bec ause I encountered this consciousness in deep meditation and it is undeniably ONE with everything that exists. I "know " it is God, period.
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Nah....don't believe you. Now what? Which one of us is right? How would we know? Is there some sort of way to know?
The God I encountered matches the descriptions in your very own Bible of the God Jesus unambiguously demonstrated by His life and especially His death. Surely an avowed Christian would recognize the God Christ revealed.

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Old 12-20-2015, 07:34 PM
 
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Nah....don't believe you. Now what? Which one of us is right? How would we know? Is there some sort of way to know?
There never is which is why faith-based arguments can never be solved, Viz. Yet some of us (ahem) keep bringing them out and employing circular reasoning...I mean isn't that silly?
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Old 12-20-2015, 07:36 PM
 
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In Judaism that child murderer would never have gotten resurrected let alone gone to heave, he would just cease to exist after death...That is one of the three outcomes for the three categories of individuals...
This is interesting. What are the other ones?
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Old 12-20-2015, 08:34 PM
 
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In other news today, hundreds of Christian pastors all across the land actually lived their life according to the Word of God, loving people and being faithful.
I was about to make the same point.
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Old 12-20-2015, 08:39 PM
 
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Sure, let's not be critical of these criminals, because, they are CHRISTIAN.

That's like Muslims not condemning Islamic extremists.
That is not what Jeff is saying.
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:45 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Your problem is that you have too low of a view of God. You somehow seem to think that some are more worthy of heaven than others. Once you realize how great God is that even the "good people" are utterly incapable of being "good" in God's eyes -- and he is THAT HOLY.....we realize that one person's offense is not so much less than another's in comparison to God's holiness.
Actually, I have no view of any god. I am intrigued that so many people still fervently believe ancient myths.

“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” —Stephen F Roberts
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:47 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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That is not what Jeff is saying.
It's a comparison that is valid.
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