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Old 01-12-2016, 01:54 AM
 
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Why do people who send their children to private school that is associated with a church still have to pay public school taxes?
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:46 AM
 
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Why do people who send their children to private school that is associated with a church still have to pay public school taxes?
For the same reason I pay school taxes, and have no children in school. Public education should be every child's birthright.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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For the same reason I pay school taxes, and have no children in school. Public education should be every child's birthright.
And there are people who disagree than anything that must be provided by the "public" should be a "birthright."


Especially since even being born is not a "birthright."
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:23 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Why do people who send their children to private school that is associated with a church still have to pay public school taxes?
Because you are part of society that agrees that education is a fundamental part of making the site a more viable now and into the future.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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And there are people who disagree than anything that must be provided by the "public" should be a "birthright."


Especially since even being born is not a "birthright."
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How do you think roads and traffic lights and fire stations and police and hospitals even exist to their current levels?

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Old 01-12-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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How do you think roads and traffic lights and fire stations and police and hospitals even exist to their current levels?
I didn't say I was one of those people...the argument I was responding to is invalid. There is no "birthright" argument for roads and traffic lights and fire stations and police and hospitals, either.

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Old 01-12-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Because you are part of society that agrees that education is a fundamental part of making the site a more viable now and into the future.
Exactly. The problem is, with a lot of religious people, is that they do not value education. They think they shouldn't have to pay taxes for schools, but we should pay for their Sunday clubhouse. Maybe they are just using it to try and make a point, but it is a stupid one at best.


You should WANT to help pay for schools, whether you have kids or not.


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Old 01-12-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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I didn't say I was one of those people...the argument I was responding to is invalid. There is no "birthright" argument for roads and traffic lights and fire stations and police and hospitals, either.
No, but whether the semantics of being birthrights or just "what society needs to function"...are you arguing we don't need as many as we do? Or we don't need any taxes and should wait for donations?

I guess that's the problem I have with the anti-tax crowd. I get the sentiment...I prefer to pay less taxes as well. But what is the actual alternative and if its such a great idea...why don't we all see the beauty of its genius?
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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And there are people who disagree than anything that must be provided by the "public" should be a "birthright."


Especially since even being born is not a "birthright."
I am unconcerned with those people. Those same folks use roads, lights, bridges, fire, police, DMV, et-al. All public services. When those folks start fixing their own potholes, and remove snow on the highway I might look at their objections.

I do not understand how being born, or not has anything to do with taxes and tax exemptions.
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Old 01-12-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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No, but whether the semantics of being birthrights or just "what society needs to function"...are you arguing we don't need as many as we do? Or we don't need any taxes and should wait for donations?

I guess that's the problem I have with the anti-tax crowd. I get the sentiment...I prefer to pay less taxes as well. But what is the actual alternative and if its such a great idea...why don't we all see the beauty of its genius?
It's not semantics. When we are arguing "birthright" that means "everything for everyone all the time." Once we place the argument in terms of "what society needs to function," we can talk about making smart selections that are good for society.


Take, for instance, publically funded higher education. Even in the countries where that is done, it's not a "birthright" argument, but a "what society needs to function" argument. Therefore even after deciding everyone needs a publicly funded higher education, society can still stipulate who can get what kind of higher education.
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