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No it wasn't actually. Some of it was written up to 90 - 100 years after the ALLEGED death of the Christian man-god....but let's run with your claim of 50 years. Do you really believe that people could write these stories from memory, 50 years after the events, remembering verbatim EVERY word that was spoken, who said those words, where they were when they spoke and what time of day it was???
Example. The author of John is around 90 years old when he transcribes verbatim in chapter 17 the prayer of JtC in the Garden of Gethsemane, while being at 50 metres away, tired, hungry and SLEEPING with all the others. LOL! That's some trick!
Which means it is UNRELIABLE.
You left one thing out - they also remembered what was said and what happened before (and at) the birth of Christ. They also remembered the census which did not occur anywhere near the alleged birth of Christ. And that was some thirty years earlier (like 120 years). They also remembered exactly what Herod said when he saw Jesus even though Herod had died some twenty five years before that alleged meeting with Jesus. Mmm .... maybe they got a few things wrong? Or maybe they got all of it wrong?
You got any basis for such beliefs? You have to reject large portions of the Bible.
Oddly enough, that is exactly what most Christians do....and it's usually the parts about selling all their possessions and giving the money to the poor; treating others as they would like to be treated themselves and giving to anyone that asks of them.
Then you need to show a little intellectual integrity (look it up) and admit that all other religions can use their religious books to prove that their religious books are true.
I don't know so much. If one studies the bible in depth and with an open and critical mind one begins to get the impression that the one who killed thousands of people and destroyed the entire earth is the evil one.
Originally Posted by Eusebius View Post
The Bible doesn't just make a claim and then says that claim is true. The Bible prophesied things thousands of years before Christ and He is the only one to fulfill those prophetic statements.
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Originally Posted by Rafius
Why are you having such a problem grasping this simple concept. Look...the OT makes the prophecy and the NT says the prophecy came true.
Well of course the New Testament writers would say such and such prophetic statement came true via Christ because it did. He is the only one Who could have caused the prophetic statement to be realized.
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It's bloody simple man! When the authors of the NT were writing it, they were totally aware of the fables and prophecies of the OT and they invented the JtC character in order to fulfil the fables and prophecies of the OT. Damn man! It ain't nuclear physics!!!
That is just your say-so which is actually proofless. You have to actually PROVE the NT writers invented Jesus Christ and that they did so in order to fulfill the prophetic statements in the Old Testament. Now get cracking and bring forth your actual, verifiable proof! You see, it ain't nuclear physics!!!
In fact, the four accounts prove the disciples didn't have a clue that Jesus had to die, be entombed and roused the third day even after Jesus told them about it. Plus the fact that they thought the body was stolen shows they were clueless as to the prophetic statements of His resurrection. It was not until the risen Christ appeared to them that they had their aha moment.
I sure am glad you now believe in all those historic accounts based on your link. Now that you believe in the world-wide flood in Noah's day, we can hopefully get you to see that all those people who died will one day be resurrected, be given life and immortality and incorruption.
Then you need to show a little intellectual integrity (look it up) and admit that all other religions can use their religious books to prove that their religious books are true.
If their religious book are true then they would be true.
No it wasn't actually. Some of it was written up to 90 - 100 years after the ALLEGED death of the Christian man-god....but let's run with your claim of 50 years. Do you really believe that people could write these stories from memory, 50 years after the events, remembering verbatim EVERY word that was spoken, who said those words, where they were when they spoke and what time of day it was???
Example. The author of John is around 90 years old when he transcribes verbatim in chapter 17 the prayer of JtC in the Garden of Gethsemane, while being at 50 metres away, tired, hungry and SLEEPING with all the others. LOL! That's some trick!
Please prove John was around 90 when he wrote his gospel with verifiable evidence.
Jesus told the disciples He would send the comforter and it would remind them of everything He said and did.
Joh_14:26 Now the consoler, the holy spirit, which the Father will be sending in My name, that will be teaching you all, and reminding you of all that I said to you."
Oddly enough, that is exactly what most Christians do....and it's usually the parts about selling all their possessions and giving the money to the poor; treating others as they would like to be treated themselves and giving to anyone that asks of them.
That was given by Christ only to the Israelite circumcisionist disciple to sell all etc. It was told to the Israelites that if they (the Israelites) were to be His disciple that they had certain requirements. It was not given to the nations to do.
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Or maybe they got all of it wrong? 
