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Old 05-04-2008, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Ireland
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im for the death penalty
I believe if there was more use of the Death penalty. more people would be alive today
What about those who were put to death, innocent of any crime.

Relatively few developed countries in the world impose the death penalty.

Japan and South Korea are the only established democracies in the world, other than the U.S, which still conduct executions.

Some countries routinely refuse to extradite accused murderers to the US because of the possibility that they might be executed.

In Florida USA during 2006 Angel Diaz took two injections and 34 minutes to die.

Judicial murder is still murder.
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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The issue that gets me is the Political Right’s view that abortion is a something easy for the people. I think it would be a hard decision, and one made due to many factors relevant only to the parents. It is their choice as long as the law allows it, and no body should butt into the decision making process.
Death sentence is another issue. Too many mistakes have been made, and the cost of all the legal appeals will run much more than keeping a person in jail for a lifetime. I also think it is too much to ask a jury to make a decision of that nature, thus placing the burden on their shoulders, if a few years down the road the real killer is found. As good as our system is we still make too many mistakes, and it is hard to correct a mistake when you have killed the innocent person.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:01 AM
 
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What about those who were put to death, innocent of any crime.

Relatively few developed countries in the world impose the death penalty.

Japan and South Korea are the only established democracies in the world, other than the U.S, which still conduct executions.

Some countries routinely refuse to extradite accused murderers to the US because of the possibility that they might be executed.

In Florida USA during 2006 Angel Diaz took two injections and 34 minutes to die.

Judicial murder is still murder.
first christains dont have any right to talk about murder since there religion is based on the fact that religious murder is right.

2nd there is a reason why we wait 10 years till it happens and by the way they feel nothing when they die, might take a day dont care. If you want to go back to the shooting line where instant kill is exact then ok. And it requires an anomyous vote. Also this day in age if anytime in the appeals one person vote no then its off. Today they have to be almost positive to get the penailty. however its rarely used. And then mybe with less prisioners rotting their life in prision and costing to much to keep so many we wont have to release some of them. nothing is perfect I agree, but this is as fair as it will get. Todays evidence will have to preaty heavy and you have to appear as a screwed up person to get this penalty

LOL we really use the death penalty countries dont give us people because one they dont want to use to rescues to get them 2nd most countries hate us thank you bush!

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Old 05-06-2008, 02:33 PM
 
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first christains dont have any right to talk about murder since there religion is based on the fact that religious murder is right.

2nd there is a reason why we wait 10 years till it happens and by the way they feel nothing when they die, might take a day dont care. If you want to go back to the shooting line where instant kill is exact then ok. And it requires an anomyous vote. Also this day in age if anytime in the appeals one person vote no then its off. Today they have to be almost positive to get the penailty. however its rarely used. And then mybe with less prisioners rotting their life in prision and costing to much to keep so many. we wont have to release some of them. nothing is perfect I agree, but this is as fair as it will get. Todays evidence will have to preaty heavy and you have to appear as a screwed up person to get this penalty

LOL we rarely use the death penalty countries dont give us people that have commited a crime to the US because one they dont want to use to rescues to get them 2nd most countries hate us thank you bush!

sorry edited a little now
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:37 PM
 
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Well I can see your someone who knows nothing about the Bible except what you believe supports your position. That's why you tossed out the "hate the sin love the sinner". Well I do hate the sin of Abortion, which is murder. And if I really hated those who support abortion, I would not try and warn them of the fate that awaits them for this murder. I do believe all murders are only a heart beat from Hell. And for me not to say anything knowing I'm saved and your lost, would really make me a hypocrite.

And if the Bible is just a Book of fables, why are all the Bible prophecies true?

And giving a child up for adoption, is far better than murder. Only a twisted mind could believe that murder and the slaughter of the innocent is more desirable.

And I have personally had encounters with beings that came from Hell back in the year 1973, and I can't possibly imagine what horror awaits people who find themselves is such a place at the end of their life. And that is just one of the reasons I try to warn people of such a place. Jesus told all who would listen, to avoid Hell.

What pictures did I see? Tell me, how do you make a child that has had its brains sucked out, or it's legs and arms cut off look good? It does not require dishonest pictures to reveal the horror of the abortion procedure.
Your contradicting like 10 of your beliefs lol
You shouldnt hate but almost all christains break that rule lol
2nd Christains shouldnt talk about murder because they commit the worse kind.

genocide. through out history u commit genocide after genocide. Then you guys have priest raping little boys on a large scale.
You have a bunch of followers who blindy excepts the truth and is willing to do anything a book says.

I belive that a kid isnt born till its concious. however the heart will due. and since abortion is that far back the kid cant feel a thing. even if you jab it with a knife.

It dousnt fear anything either. Its not alive
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:25 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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I'm against abortion and the death penalty. I'm a pro-life atheist Libertarian.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:47 PM
 
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i personally havent taken a stance on abortion. Because sometimes it is necessary, and if a woman really doesnt want to have a baby, i dont think the government or anyone should force her.
As for the death penalty.. i think it should be done away with, only because its more expensive to have people on death row than it is to lock people away for life, and our justice system screws up often. Capital punishment exist purely because of the "eye for an eye" rule, and that is never a good reason to dole out punishment. Let the person rot in prison.
that actually not true killing someone cost less then keeping them in one place for the rest of their life.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:55 PM
 
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Your contradicting like 10 of your beliefs lol
You shouldnt hate but almost all christains break that rule lol
2nd Christains shouldnt talk about murder because they commit the worse kind.

genocide. through out history u commit genocide after genocide. Then you guys have priest raping little boys on a large scale.
You have a bunch of followers who blindy excepts the truth and is willing to do anything a book says.

I belive that a kid isnt born till its concious. however the heart will due. and since abortion is that far back the kid cant feel a thing. even if you jab it with a knife.

It dousnt fear anything either. Its not alive
I believe the problem here is you don't know what a Christian is. And a priest that rapes little boys are Christian in name only. And those who pratice genocide are not followers of Jesus.
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:11 PM
 
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I believe the problem here is you don't know what a Christian is. And a priest that rapes little boys are Christian in name only. And those who pratice genocide are not followers of Jesus.
I go to catholic school. I've read the old testament. Sure Jesus is a great guy. But no one can excuse the crimes Yamen(spelled wrong) has committed. I really have nothing wrong with the New testament except a few bold quotes. But you must understand that there's a reason why Christians are the top killers in the world.

The priest rapping little boys, is just an example how the Catholic church is screwed up today.
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I go to catholic school. I've read the old testament. Sure Jesus is a great guy. But no one can excuse the crimes Yamen(spelled wrong) has committed. I really have nothing wrong with the New testament except a few bold quotes. But you must understand that there's a reason why Christians are the top killers in the world.
Could they just be taking on the name and not living it?

godspeed,

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