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Old 04-21-2016, 04:29 AM
 
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For the first time ever in Indonesia's Banda Aceh province, a non-Muslim, was caned 30 times for selling alcohol. 100's of people were forced to watch the public caning.

Tell us again how peaceful Islam is, especially towards non-Muslims? Although there are Christians in the US who would be perfectly happy if we went back to the 1700's and with the same harsh and cruel punishments be applied to say, homosexuals, common decency has brought us to common sense. Islam has a long way to go in that regard.

Full story here:

https://religousnotright.wordpress.c...er-sharia-law/
You do realized that they cane muslims as well right? Sort of puts a damper on your argument there.
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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You do realized that they cane muslims as well right? Sort of puts a damper on your argument there.
Our own Woodrow Li will tell you that Sharia is not to be applied to non-Muslims. Read this thread for his discussion points.
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:38 AM
 
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Sharia Law, is most intrusive and strict against women and debasing the name of Allah results in death...now is that insanity or what??? Where is the freedom of thought and compassion?????
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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Sharia Law, is most intrusive and strict against women and debasing the name of Allah results in death...now is that insanity or what??? Where is the freedom of thought and compassion?????

What some people, including some Muslims, call Sharia is not Sharia. No Nation on Earth uses Sharia criminal law. Mainly be cause it is impossible to convict a person under sharia. the proof of guilt can not be met.


Yes 2 Nations, a radical province and several gangster groups use what they call Sharia, but that is not Sharia.
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:04 AM
 
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What some people, including some Muslims, call Sharia is not Sharia. No Nation on Earth uses Sharia criminal law. Mainly be cause it is impossible to convict a person under sharia. the proof of guilt can not be met.


Yes 2 Nations, a radical province and several gangster groups use what they call Sharia, but that is not Sharia.
Problem is, Woodrow, it seems that everyone seems to have a different definition, and frankly, most of us in the West don't want any of it. It has a fluidity that we don't like, and I'm willing to wager most would not even like the definition you seem to attribute to it.

Most of us do not want to be dominated by a religious institution like was the case in the west in the Middle Ages. Islam is still stuck there in many cases; it needs it's own Reformation and Enlightenment.
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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Several factors need to be looked at.

!. Sharia law forbids Sharia to be applied to non-Muslims. This is inviolation of Sharia law and under sharia who ever enforced Sharia needs to be held to task.
It would appear your kinder, gentler, personal interpretation of Islam is at odds with that of the majority in power in Aceh province.

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Citing the need to end discrimination, Aceh lawmakers plan to pass a bylaw this week that would impose a Shariah-based criminal code on both Muslims and non-Muslims, with offenders facing lengthy caning sessions or jail terms for acts that are legal elsewhere in Indonesia.
Coming Soon in Aceh: Shariah Law for Non-Muslims | Jakarta Globe
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Old 04-27-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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It would appear your kinder, gentler, personal interpretation of Islam is at odds with that of the majority in power in Aceh province.



Coming Soon in Aceh: Shariah Law for Non-Muslims | Jakarta Globe
Aceh has set up it's own laws. They are even in violation of Indonesian law.


Under Shariah only the Nadd (Hudud ) call for physical punishment and selling alcohol is not a Hadd crime.

I am not certain if Aceh is even calling it Shariah as caning is quite common under secular law in the Non-Muslim nations in the region. Singapore which is the largest user of caning in the world is neither Muslim nor under Shariah.

Caning is not named in Shariah, However, the Drinking of Alcohol is to be punished in accordance with local custom.
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Old 04-27-2016, 11:56 PM
 
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Muslim countries today are run like Christian European countries were in the 14th century.

Yemeni accused of atheism is murdered

In-Bangladesh-serial-killing-in-the-name-of-god.html
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Old 04-28-2016, 01:55 AM
 
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No, dude. I don't know any Christians that are advocating for that kind of nonsense.
I am aware of many Christians (and a few nonChristians) who believe corporal punishment is a good education tool and would make a great deterrent of crime, although at the present moment due to cultural fads they would probably not advocate public canings. I am also aware of many Christians who believe the 1700s were better times with better laws and practices. Advocating is much more active than believing though, so you are right.
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