60 year old Christian woman caned 30 times under Sharia Law (abortion, Islamic, Muslims)
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For the first time ever in Indonesia's Banda Aceh province, a non-Muslim, was caned 30 times for selling alcohol. 100's of people were forced to watch the public caning.
Tell us again how peaceful Islam is, especially towards non-Muslims? Although there are Christians in the US who would be perfectly happy if we went back to the 1700's and with the same harsh and cruel punishments be applied to say, homosexuals, common decency has brought us to common sense. Islam has a long way to go in that regard.
60 year old Christian woman caned 30 times under Sharia Law
Fundamentalist Islam is a primitive, barbaric religion, as is fundamentalist Christianity. Our modern societies have tamed the barbarism of Christianity, but the backward, anachronistic Muslim societies have NOT. They do not even deserve the label of civilized societies.
I don't know enough about Indonesian politics to reliably understand how the change in the application of Sharia happened. If they are at all like a Republic, I will optimistically assume a very conservative party took power. Never the less, this sort of thing is crazy. Being physically harmed for such a benign crime, even calling it a crime seems odd, is just unreasonable.
I don't know enough about Indonesian politics to reliably understand how the change in the application of Sharia happened. If they are at all like a Republic, I will optimistically assume a very conservative party took power. Never the less, this sort of thing is crazy. Being physically harmed for such a benign crime, even calling it a crime seems odd, is just unreasonable.
No difference than Trump or Cruz calling for punishment of women who have abortion. Sharia Law, be it Muslim or be it Christian, is barbaric and bassackwards..
For the first time ever in Indonesia's Banda Aceh province, a non-Muslim, was caned 30 times for selling alcohol. 100's of people were forced to watch the public caning.
Tell us again how peaceful Islam is, especially towards non-Muslims? Although there are Christians in the US who would be perfectly happy if we went back to the 1700's and with the same harsh and cruel punishments be applied to say, homosexuals, common decency has brought us to common sense. Islam has a long way to go in that regard.
!. Sharia law forbids Sharia to be applied to non-Muslims. This is inviolation of Sharia law and under sharia who ever enforced Sharia needs to be held to task.
2. Under Sharia selling alcohol is not a Hudud crime. There is no prescribed punishment
3. Indonesian law allows non Muslims to sell alcohol, this is in violation of Indonsian law.
4. Aceh is a breakaway province th does not obey Indonesian law and is trying to secede from Indonesia.
What can Indonesia do? Act like ISIS go in and kill all the residents of Aceh for not following Indonesian law?
The question is what can Inonesia do? Aceh is a rebel state and consistently violates Indonesian law. Should Indonesia intervene with military force?
Tell us again how peaceful Islam is, especially towards non-Muslims? Although there are Christians in the US who would be perfectly happy if we went back to the 1700's and with the same harsh and cruel punishments be applied to say, homosexuals, common decency has brought us to common sense. Islam has a long way to go in that regard.
No, dude. I don't know any Christians that are advocating for that kind of nonsense.
!. Sharia law forbids Sharia to be applied to non-Muslims. This is inviolation of Sharia law and under sharia who ever enforced Sharia needs to be held to task.
Well...that settles it. I guess we need not be concerned about beheadings. We should just remind ISIS of that. I'm sure they'll stop.
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!. Sharia law forbids Sharia to be applied to non-Muslims. This is inviolation of Sharia law and under sharia who ever enforced Sharia needs to be held to task.
Apparently, the Aceh Muslims didn't get the Sharia law detail memo. Woodrow, you are giving us your interpretation, but there are many on the Sharia side who give a different one. And THAT is why the suggestion of even limited application in non-Muslim countries must be fought. And in Muslim countries for that matter, even though it is more dangerous for those who do.
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2. Under Sharia selling alcohol is not a Hudud crime. There is no prescribed punishment
The memo again was not received, or interpreted wrongly. More reason to never accept Sharia, ever.sia.
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What can Indonesia do? Act like ISIS go in and kill all the residents of Aceh for not following Indonesian law?
The question is what can Inonesia do? Aceh is a rebel state and consistently violates Indonesian law. Should Indonesia intervene with military force?
Indonesia has accepted Sharia be practiced in Aceh so it does not break away. That makes it complicit.
Apparently, the Aceh Muslims didn't get the Sharia law detail memo. Woodrow, you are giving us your interpretation, but there are many on the Sharia side who give a different one. And THAT is why the suggestion of even limited application in non-Muslim countries must be fought. And in Muslim countries for that matter, even though it is more dangerous for those who do.
The memo again was not received, or interpreted wrongly. More reason to never accept Sharia, ever.sia.
Indonesia has accepted Sharia be practiced in Aceh so it does not break away. That makes it complicit.
Shariah is a well defined legal code. There are 4 accepted schools of though regarding Shariaa. Those 4 being Malii, Shafi'i, Hanbali and Hanafi. A Nation locality, or individual can adhere to any of the 4. However the Criminal laws and Hudud laws are under the strict Jurisdiction of an Sharia Judge. But even then the madhab(Legal Code) of the school
In none of the 4 is there any provision for preventing a non-Muslim from selling alcohol. While a Muslim drinking alcohol is punishable the degree of punishment is limited and must be in accordance with local custom. Also under the 4 school Sharia can not be forced upon non-Muslims.
However, there are breakaway groups that have decided to declare their own laws and call them Shariam. The best examples Saudi, Isis, Iran and now Aceh.
Here is a link that gives a very good explanation of actual Shariah (It is lengthy)
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