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Old 04-22-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Even if a person gets well unexpectedly there is NO evidence any deity is involved.
Additionally even if a deity was involved, no evidence that it is yours.
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Please explain to me what evidence would convince you then. Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
It's that whole, "I don't know, but I'll know it when I see it" thing, for me at least. I can't really tell you what would convince me, beyond a shadow of doubt, as I have not been convinced up to this point. To start, it would have to be the healing of someone beyond healing. By that, I do not mean someone with cancer who gets better, as there are tons of documented cases of this. I am talking terminal, 100% deadly disease that is cured, a limb grown back, or something like that.
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The most depressing thing about fundamentalists is that they breed.
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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Good for her. I hope she wins the case.
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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The most depressing thing about fundamentalists is that they breed.
And pass on their fundamentalism to their offspring, often "protecting" them from the outside world.
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Correction - there is no evidence that will satisfy skeptics like you. I've seen healing. I've seen cases with documentation as proof. Yet of course, still not good enough. There is even a worldwide conference of doctors from around the world sharing their evidence and testimony of healing. But a skeptic has to believe that they are all liars or frauds to maintain statements like yours.


International Christian Medical Conference Held Successfully in Malaysia | Reuters
What are the cases presented. I would think it would be important, yet the article does not discuss. Do you have a link to the nine cases presented along with the proof? I would like to read them.
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Old 04-22-2016, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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It's too bad people don't have to pass some kind of a test before they can become parents. What I'm wondering, though, is whether it's necessarily too late for this young woman. She's of age, now. Her nutjob parents can't prohibit her from having any medical procedure she chooses at this point. Is there anything that can be done at this point for her, or is it too late?
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Old 04-22-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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It's too bad people don't have to pass some kind of a test before they can become parents. What I'm wondering, though, is whether it's necessarily too late for this young woman. She's of age, now. Her nutjob parents can't prohibit her from having any medical procedure she chooses at this point. Is there anything that can be done at this point for her, or is it too late?
I don't know if it is too late for her to live, but it is apparently too late to fix it though, as it says the damage to her heart and lungs is now permanent. Even if she were able to live, she would be permanently disabled, all because these waste of life parents decided praying for her and rubbing rancid olive oil on her was a better alternative than letting a Dr. fix her.


Yet another reason why the fundamentalist sects are dangerous.
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