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Old 05-10-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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False hope. It may bring peace, but Buddhism's strive for Nirvana gives them peace. So does spiritual naturalism when communing with nature. Pantheism works for some. The good part about these examples is that they do not bring false hopes, which makes them more honest as a philosophy.
False hope? That's only your biased opinion. You don't have a single shred of evidence to prove that people's faith in Christ is false or imaginary.
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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Gee Jeff, the reason why God is imaginary is that there is insufficient evidence for the existence of one. Just as there is insufficient evidence to suggest unicorns exist. The default position is non existence until existence is proven through reason and evidence. If God's exists, then his / her / it's action's can be judged. Why wouldn't they be able to be judged? The point some atheists make about actions is hypothetical, meaning that if this Biblical God exists, then we can make some assertions about judging it's behavior.
Correction - there is insufficient evidence to convince people who have harden their hearts against God. NOTHING I repeat NOTHING would ever convince people as your self even if I had a live camera on a visit from an angel. You would find some way to explain it. Supernatural events and miracles happen every day. You just want to stay blind to this reality.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:58 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Correction - there is insufficient evidence to convince people who have harden their hearts against God. NOTHING I repeat NOTHING would ever convince people as your self even if I had a live camera on a visit from an angel. You would find some way to explain it. Supernatural events and miracles happen every day. You just want to stay blind to this reality.
If supernatural events and miracles happen everyday, certainly it would be easy for you to cite an example, right?
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Correction - there is insufficient evidence to convince people who have harden their hearts against God. NOTHING I repeat NOTHING would ever convince people as your self even if I had a live camera on a visit from an angel. You would find some way to explain it. Supernatural events and miracles happen every day. You just want to stay blind to this reality.
Maybe reality is too hard to understand, and that's why you choose to be blind? It's so much easier to just say, Oh Jesus/God did it, so you don't have to think for yourself.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:08 PM
 
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If supernatural events and miracles happen everyday, certainly it would be easy for you to cite an example, right?
100's of proofs, but when questioned, he won't supply any evidence because he won't waste time of people without an open mind, without realizing it is an open mind that WANTS to see these proofs. I, for one, and open to anything, I would think that someone who wants to spread the word of God would be willing to share these proofs, especially if they were so SURE it was PROOF UNDENIABLE. But that's just me.
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If supernatural events and miracles happen everyday, certainly it would be easy for you to cite an example, right?
Did you miss jeffy's (in)famous Flaming Hand Proves God post?

Perhaps he'll favour us with it again for those who missed it 1st time around.
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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False hope? That's only your biased opinion. You don't have a single shred of evidence to prove that people's faith in Christ is false or imaginary.
Well, one could ask ourselves whether faith in Christ is not false or imaginary. Where does this faith in Christ lie? Does it not lie in one's imagination? Or is it something we can touch and see?

I would say it is undoubtedly imaginary.

Can you prove that faith in Christ is not imaginary?
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Maybe reality is too hard to understand, and that's why you choose to be blind? It's so much easier to just say, Oh Jesus/God did it, so you don't have to think for yourself.
We need to talk about this Jesus/God thing. Perhaps a new thread.
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Correction - there is insufficient evidence to convince people who have harden their hearts against God. NOTHING I repeat NOTHING would ever convince people as your self even if I had a live camera on a visit from an angel. You would find some way to explain it. Supernatural events and miracles happen every day. You just want to stay blind to this reality.
Are you suggesting that the almighty god, creator of the universe and all that's in it, including the very flawed man (who is created in God's image), does not have the power to convince us? What happened to the almighty bit?
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:01 AM
 
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If supernatural events and miracles happen everyday, certainly it would be easy for you to cite an example, right?
I have before and it gets laughed off every time. No point in bothering again.
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