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Old 05-11-2016, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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You claimed you were not being disrespectful to me. I proved you wrong. Your response? "oh call em as I see em!" At least own up to it instead of claiming I'm the one being rude.
Get over it man! Grow a thicker skin.
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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you claimed you were not being disrespectful to me. I proved you wrong. Your response? "oh call em as i see em!" at least own up to it instead of claiming i'm the one being rude.
lol!
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:26 PM
 
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lol!
Thank you for proving my point again.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Thank you for proving my point again.
jeffy, you've become a caricature.



Congratulations.

Ish....
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Aren't they 2 of the trinity, father, son and holy ghost?
Father and son. Some people switch between them. "Father god, we pray ..... " then switching over to "Lord Jesus who died on the cross to save us from our sins .... " Subject for a separate thread.
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I'm at a loss for words.

It's a fire. That sort of looks like a hand.

Why do you think that is evidence for something supernatural?
It doesn't 'sort of' look like a hand to me, it vaguely looks like a dinosaur claw or paw or whatever dinosaurs had. I've seen clouds that look like things. When I look at that image I see a fire.

Jeff, a special effects fireball on a movie set does not constitute evidence of God. Real evidence of God would be the ending of all the suffering in the world, the ending of the starvation of all those children in north Africa and other parts, the ending of child sex slavery and harvesting of organs from children (who die in the process) and the ending of fundamentalist persecution and hatred of homosexuals and child abuse and things like that.

If the 'hand' in the fireball looked more like this, it would have been more convincing.

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Old 05-12-2016, 04:30 AM
 
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Correction - there is insufficient evidence to convince people who have harden their hearts against God.
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There is written documentation that your god hardens hearts. Prove to me your god isn't intentionally hardening mine Jeff. Please?
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Bump in case you missed this Jeff. Can you prove to me that jesus isn't hardening my heart Jeff?
You don't have me on ignore, do you Jeff?

Or is this another checkmate moment?
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:01 AM
 
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I'm at a loss for words.

It's a fire. That sort of looks like a hand.

Why do you think that is evidence for something supernatural?
Why would the film crew even bother reporting if it is a perfectly natural occurrence? Did you even read the article? They saw apparitions and vehicles driving off by themselves. Oh perfectly natural in your dismissive world huh? There is NOTHING that will phase you obviously.

James Bond Movies: Licence to Kill - The Flaming Hand @ Universal Exports, The Home of James Bond, 007
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:31 AM
 
Location: USA
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Why would the film crew even bother reporting if it is a perfectly natural occurrence? Did you even read the article? They saw apparitions and vehicles driving off by themselves. Oh perfectly natural in your dismissive world huh? There is NOTHING that will phase you obviously.

James Bond Movies: Licence to Kill - The Flaming Hand @ Universal Exports, The Home of James Bond, 007
You see the unknown as proof of the supernatural. I don't. It's a fundamental difference between you and I.

People report "weird" stuff all the time. I attribute most of it as people wanting to get noticed. The rest I simply see as the unknown. I don't fall for the "I don't understand it, therefore it's supernatural" fallacy.
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Why would the film crew even bother reporting if it is a perfectly natural occurrence? Did you even read the article? They saw apparitions and vehicles driving off by themselves. Oh perfectly natural in your dismissive world huh? There is NOTHING that will phase you obviously.

James Bond Movies: Licence to Kill - The Flaming Hand @ Universal Exports, The Home of James Bond, 007
Oh yes, a blog about James Bond movies is where I go for ALL my reputable news!


Where are all the other people talking about this stuff? The director didn't even say anything about seeing something other than the hand, in a picture (Which could have been altered). A truck moved by itself and a truck burst into flames.... Was it the same truck, or two different trucks? If it was the same truck, then obviously there was something wrong with the truck.


Do you believe that people who see Bigfoot are telling the truth, and therefore Bigfoot is real? What about aliens? Ghosts? Demons? What about people who see apparitions at their house? Do you really take something like this flaming hand at face value? Do you really see this as some kind of evidence for your specific God? If so, please explain how this is evidence of anything of the sort.


I mean, seriously Jeff, if this is all it takes for you to believe in something, then I understand why you are a theist, as you are obviously very easily led to believe things.
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