Do Churches Spend Money On Real Charity? 2 Studies Show Not Really. (Jewish, California)
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And that is the way it should be for ANY group that the general taxpayer has to subsidize because the group is not paying taxes.
Now don't go jumping to any conclusions, cupper, because I'm not. I'm just asking if you believe the general taxpayer in any way subsidizes the LDS Church. And if you believe it does, please explain how.
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Now don't go jumping to any conclusions, cupper, because I'm not. I'm just asking if you believe the general taxpayer in any way subsidizes the LDS Church. And if you believe it does, please explain how.
Yes I do, and massively.
None of the land that LDS sits on is taxed, unless it is clearly a commercial entity, such as a shopping center. Yet, along with all other churches, the LDS church utilizes the infrastructure paid for by the general taxpayer, without any contribution to it. Sewer, water, other utilities that a municipality may run, roads and sidewalks are all used by everyone, but only those not exempt from taxation pay for it.
The bigger footprint a religious organization has, the larger that exempt infrastructure is. I'm not even sure if the Deseret Ranches pay taxes (I believe the one in Florida might), and having helped with the branding next door to one, I know how huge they are.
Do you not see it is an issue that churches generally use the infrastructure everyone pays for, yet don't contribute back to that infrastructure?
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Their specific inclusion in the First Amendment to theConstitution.
Nothing in the First Amendment or SCOTUS decisions deal with taxation. In fact, they didn't get an exemption from taxation BY POLICY until 1894. Nothing to do with the Constitution.
You are being obtuse. Toyota is for-profit, period. Churches are not. As far as your marijuana cult, that's not good for society.
You were the one originally being obtuse, which is why I gave the examples of a change in motto, etc. Religion and Marijuana are not good for society. Non-profits are not for-profit, period. ...So why is Rotary club treated differently than the Mennonite Church that does even less charity work?
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Because historically, our society has valued churches. You ask a good question. Perhaps society is different today, but in the past when a church opened in town, it promoted a different type of person moving in. Instead of single men settling an area, women and children lived in the town. They tended to not just provide charitable works, but they gave stability to the area because families tended to live near a church.
I think you are completely right, historically, but...
A social breeding organization doesn't have to have religious motivations, although I understand that religions are often front and center on the issues of social coupling and breeding.
Stable and sober meeting places for mingling with the like-minded have a lot of societal value.
Their specific inclusion in the First Amendment to theConstitution.
1st amendment includes freedom of speech, no? So then no taxes for communication corporations such as news agencies, tabloids, marketing firms, etc?
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