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I did answer the question(s). AGAIN: All Parties to the transaction should be free to choose who they will or will not do business with....IMO.
THAT is my critique of the "equality" of the ruling cited in the OP...and the so-called "anti-discrimination laws" (that actually CAUSE discrimination) now in place it is based upon.
I am arguing for the "equality" noted in the OP to be granted for all concerned.
As far as what the concept of Pantheism "allows" relative to the issue...it places no actual judgement on it, with a preference for fairness and equality. It is what it is, wherever, at any given time.
Obviously though...if you endorse these new "regulations", your Atheism Religion does allow for discrimination...as that is what this law causes.
The fact is...in case you didn't notice...these laws are VERY new. How long have "business transactions" taken place? Many thousands of years?
I prefer less regulations...not more.
Does it matter how new they are? If so, why? If someone has religious convictions that don't allow them to sell to people equally, then they shouldn't be in that business.
So you are okay with gay people being denied housing? You are okay with black people being denied housing? All because you think that is somehow "fair"? Housing is no different if you are going to play the "discrimination for everyone!" card.
I know you don't give a rat's behind about other people, that is quite obvious, but people in small towns (which you obviously know nothing about) may not HAVE other options. You may be fine with them being forced to travel 50 miles away from home to shop or get something to eat, but normal people are not. We all know that if you were in that position you wouldn't think it was "fair".
The Religious are one of the top customer demographics for pornography there is...I've noted that many times.
But, actually...everyone under 65 can be considered a great potential porn customer. The market saturation of pornography is incredible...including most on this board, I am sure.
Does it matter how new they are? If so, why? If someone has religious convictions that don't allow them to sell to people equally, then they shouldn't be in that business.
So you are okay with gay people being denied housing? You are okay with black people being denied housing? All because you think that is somehow "fair"? Housing is no different if you are going to play the "discrimination for everyone!" card.
I know you don't give a rat's behind about other people, that is quite obvious, but people in small towns (which you obviously know nothing about) may not HAVE other options. You may be fine with them being forced to travel 50 miles away from home to shop or get something to eat, but normal people are not. We all know that if you were in that position you wouldn't think it was "fair".
You were the one saying the law will "never be on your side of things".
I was noting that "equality of all parties to business transactions" has been the law for much longer in this country than the discriminatory way this new law makes it.
Let Ted Cruz become POTUS...and see how it goes then.
I never said I was "for" discrimination. I said to either bind both sides of the transaction, or bind neither. That is what I see as "fair and equal"...unlike those that feel one side should legally be able to treat the other side in a discriminatory way, while the other side is criminally cited for the exact same thing.
You were the one saying the law will "never be on your side of things".
I was noting that "equality of all parties to business transactions" has been the law for much longer in this country than the discriminatory way this new law makes it.
Let Ted Cruz become POTUS...and see how it goes then.
I never said I was "for" discrimination. I said to either bind both sides of the transaction, or bind neither. That is what I see as "fair and equal"...unlike those that feel one side should legally be able to treat the other side in a discriminatory way, while the other side is criminally cited for the exact same thing.
So you are "for" either A) Allowing people to be discriminated against based off of who they are, be it gay, black, atheist, Christian, etc etc. or B) Forcing people to shop at certain places, because according to you, allowing people to freely choose where to do business is not "fair" if you don't let the businesses discriminate......
Hmmm..... Sounds like you are either "for" allowing discrimination, or letting the government interfere with the entire country by telling them where to shop.... Both are equally stupid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So you are "for" either A) Allowing people to be discriminated against based off of who they are, be it gay, black, atheist, Christian, etc etc. or B) Forcing people to shop at certain places, because according to you, allowing people to freely choose where to do business is not "fair" if you don't let the businesses discriminate......
Hmmm..... Sounds like you are either "for" allowing discrimination, or letting the government interfere with the entire country by telling them where to shop.... Both are equally stupid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
When someone is reduced to referring to (what they claim is) a differing view as "stupid"...they are sunk right there.
I am, as I said, for "fairness & equality"...and treating all parties to business transactions exactly the same. Anything else is what's discriminatory. I'm not saying people shouldn't be able to shop wherever they want....they should be completely free to do that.
The OP discusses "equality"....and that is what I feel the goal should be...for EVERYONE involved.
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The Religious are one of the top customer demographics for pornography there is...I've noted that many times.
But, actually...everyone under 65 can be considered a great potential porn customer. The market saturation of pornography is incredible...including most on this board, I am sure.
And you draw the line at 65 why?
See STI rates in The Villages in Florida. Most of those residents also portend to be religious.
Back to the subject at hand... it's good to see that the Courts are ruling that everyone is equal. What is sad is that so many want to suggest there has to be exceptions, or trying to find ways around equality and justifying the same.
DENVER — The Colorado Supreme Court on Monday declined to take up the case of a suburban Denver baker who refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding, letting stand a previous ruling that the Masterpiece Cakeshop owner must provide service despite his Christian beliefs.
Great. If the States that are passing anti-equality legislation now would listen, then they can save their taxpayers a ton of money having to defend unconstitutional laws. This gay couple went to court, because, in their words:
"Craig said they persisted with the case throughout a complicated legal process because they felt it was important to set the precedent that discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation was not only wrong but illegal.
“We didn’t want anyone to have to go through what we did,” Craig said.
It's time to stop the silliness of the culture wars, and recognize that everyone has to be treated equally. If you are a business, you're in business for everyone, purple, red, black, white, grey, orange tanned like Trump, or any other mixture, straight, homosexual, lesbian, confused, swing both ways, old, young or what ever, you are constrained by the laws of the land.
When will the fundamentalists get that?
Are you really dumb enough to believe this is a good thing?
Private businesses could always choose who or not to do business with, and now with the government mandating this they've crossed their line of jurisdiction.
Colorado went moonbat-crazy a long time ago. The fact that they don't recognize the 1st Amendment doesn't surprise me.
I left that hell-hole run state years ago, I've not looked back.
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