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Yeah Viz, there are a lot of good people out there who are into the ministry. They fly under the radar becaue they practice humility (as in they do not say "Look at me Look at me")
I took my neighbor to the doctor on more than a few occasions when he could not get a ride (he could not frive)
So what ?
We do what we need to do to help out those in the world around us.
You're right. We are normal people that love and care for our neighbors and help them. The point of all this is that we are normal -- we just do everyday things for our neighbors. We serve our communities.
05-05-2016, 06:39 AM
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You're right. We are normal people that love and care for our neighbors and help them. The point of all this is that we are normal -- we just do everyday things for our neighbors. We serve our communities.
Yep, and there is no need for God to do that or to make it have meaning. No need for any teleological purpose either. The common denominator is not religiosity, God, Christian, etc., but human. We do these things because of biological, social, and psychological reasons. All that other stuff is useless overlay that gets confused with these underlying things.
You're right. We are normal people that love and care for our neighbors and help them. The point of all this is that we are normal -- we just do everyday things for our neighbors. We serve our communities.
I think almost everyone recognizes that and appreciates what religious and non religious people do for others.
It is also noted that too many people wish to ignore or downplay the wrongs done by their religious leaders and those leaders should be held accountable for their actions just like everyone else. I think you understand that, based on what you stated in the rapists hired by a church thread.
You're right. We are normal people that love and care for our neighbors and help them. The point of all this is that we are normal -- we just do everyday things for our neighbors. We serve our communities.
This is great. It shows a lot of love. Whenever someone does this, it should be commended, not because the person is looking for commendation, but because helping other people is a great thing.
The fact that he's a Christian pastor has nothing to do with anything. Just like when Christian pastors who do horrible things we don't blame the fact that they were a pastor.
Recently, a Christian pastor took his neighbor to the doctor. The neighbor had to have a knee replacement, so he took him in for surgery, saw him through surgery, and picked him up the next day. He then took him back to the hospital (30 miles each way) twice weekly for the next 6 weeks for physical therapy.
And no, the neighbor does not attend his church. Nor did he get paid for it.
This is actually a good point. Why not pray and leave it to God's will, not man's carnal, incorrect and inherently sinful of-the-flesh will?
And further, wasn't transporting the man to the doctor an impingement of the man's free will?
If the man wanted to get to the doctor shouldn't he have utilized his free will to get there himself...or choose, again of his free will, to just not go? And don't give me that "he had no options to get there himself" bit, if it weren't for man's underlying sinful nature and his ability to CHOOSE these negatives wouldn't happen and there would be no opportunities for learning, so I'm laying that blame squarely on the dude's own shoulders.
I say: this pastor interrupted the man's free will which I have to assume is a sin...certainly God doesn't impinge in this way when, say, a child is starving to death. So what's one bum knee??
Sure it could be argued that it WAS this man's free will that he get his knee fixed but OTOH, it's a sexually abused child's free will that the rape stop but we don't see THAT automatically happening, now do we? "Wanting" something of the flesh and God KNOWING what's ACTUALLY good for us are two different things...correct? We can't make those decisions ourselves, as if we ourselves are God.
The fact that he's a Christian pastor has nothing to do with anything. Just like when Christian pastors who do horrible things we don't blame the fact that they were a pastor.
Ridiculous post.
You're new here.
I'm going to defend Vizio, who I have had differences with, as to why this thread was started.
If people can come on the Christianity forum and make thread after thread with the only point being to demonstrate how this Christian or that Christian--and yes, some of them pastors--do horrible things--why can't Vizio make a thread about Christians who do good things? Yes, it's boring. There's no real story in niceness. But there are millions of people who do small kindness every day because they are mindful that Christ asked them to love others and they practice that as a,way of life.
Yes, we all know non-Christian people who also do good things for others. Kindness and love for one's neighbors are not confined to Christianity. Neither is hypocrisy.
I'm going to defend Vizio, who I have had differences with, as to why this thread was started.
If people can come on the Christianity forum and make thread after thread with the only point being to demonstrate how this Christian or that Christian--and yes, some of them pastors--do horrible things--why can't Vizio make a thread about Christians who do good things? Yes, it's boring. There's no real story in niceness. But there are millions of people who do small kindness every day because they are mindful that Christ asked them to love others and they practice that as a,way of life.
Yes, we all know non-Christian people who also do good things for others. Kindness and love for one's neighbors are not confined to Christianity. Neither is hypocrisy.
Back to our regularly-scheduled arguing.
Good one. Too soon, etc.
(Although, next time Viz is being a knob, I'm still gonna call him on it.)
I say good on Visio. Good on letting us know he is a normal compassionate human being (a bit eccentric in his beliefs about creation maybe ). Go Visio!
I'd rep him but I'm out of reps for him. Will you accept a instead?
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). Go Visio!
