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Everybody knows it. God stopped blessing America and left us with our own sins. I am absolutely scared. I know Heaven/Armageddon sounds very boring and scary, really...the immortal spirit world is not my idea of paradise.
We must wake people up immediately before it's too late, but how??
I believe the nation is overall in a state of judgement. Too many laissez fair religious lukewarm Christians. Evidence is the social acceptance a female dominated home, homosexuality acceptance among the population (now it's considered a race), the prevalence of pornography, sexually stimulating images, violence on TV, Godless speech around every corner.
I believe God is still blessing true Christians individually and still adopting children into His family for the asking however.
Blessings don't always come with material reward. Money and possessions can be a snare.
If the Abrahamic (Judeo-Christo-Islamic) deity really existed, he should have knocked off some of America's pride a long time ago. The Bible describes pride and violence as two of the worst sins ever. Americans, with their nukes, with their wars, with their guns, with their incredible arrogance are more than guilty of those sins.
I believe the nation is overall in a state of judgement.
I think the nation is overall in a state of experiencing the natural consequences of its own decisions. Just not the decisions you are thinking of.
As one opinion piece I saw yesterday pointed out, Trump (68% unfavorability rating) and Clinton (58% unfavorability rating) are expressions of our national self-loathing. It is history dragging us to our own excrement and shoving our face in it. Breathe deeply!
But I predict that the religious will misattribute this just as they always do -- ignorant of actual history as many tend to be. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
If you want the political process to produce ghastly caricatures for your voting pleasure, simply don't participate in the process. Ignore the whole primary process and wait for the general, and then treat even that like a beauty contest without really understanding the issues in-depth -- things like that. But don't complain about the results, or blame them on your pet theocratic agenda not being stroked.
you attacked/mocked the USA because we nuked Japan at the end of a very nasty war. I mean use another example, not that one. And added only 1/2 of the story on the other personal slant/agenda.
let it go,
its over BUU.
The attack was not because of the mere use of nuclear weapons, but because of the ethnicity of the victims who had been demonized. Ok, a DIFFERENT example: the internment of ethnic Japanese in America while no such thing was done to ethnic Germans or Italians....... How's THAT?
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"Nuking" japan was the right thing to do. That ends that part. After that uneducated remark there is no need to address anything else. You really don't know what you are talking about. So continue on like an empty barrel down a rocky road.
It was? I thought so also for decades. So maybe it is time for YOU to educate yourself.
Until one finds out that it was not necessary. Who said so? Ike for one, on 1963. Japan was ready to surrender, but the bomb was dropped on the pretense it was necessary not to force the Japanese to surrender, but to scare the bejesus out of the Soviets.
Ike was against it even back in 1945, as was McArthur, who was not even consulted when the decision was made. It was a political, not a military, decision.
In the years since the two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan, a number of historians have suggested that the weapons had a two-pronged objective …. It has been suggested that the second objective was to demonstrate the new weapon of mass destruction to the Soviet Union. By August 1945, relations between the Soviet Union and the United States had deteriorated badly. The Potsdam Conference between U.S. President Harry S. Truman, Russian leader Joseph Stalin, and Winston Churchill (before being replaced by Clement Attlee) ended just four days before the bombing of Hiroshima. The meeting was marked by recriminations and suspicion between the Americans and Soviets. Russian armies were occupying most of Eastern Europe. Truman and many of his advisers hoped that the U.S. atomic monopoly might offer diplomatic leverage with the Soviets. In this fashion, the dropping of the atomic bomb on Japan can be seen as the first shot of the Cold War.
please, first shot in the cold war. Like what was going on in Germany and the eastern block wasn't the first shot. You hate religion so much you would warp history and tell 1/2 truths. You may not have agreed with the bomb, but it was not the wrong choice either. It had at least two objectives. the one you sited was one of a few that made it an acceptable choice. Not a pretty choice and not a feel good choice. Get over unicorns and rainbows and deal with what is the world.
unbelievable we have such self hating liberals. hate yourself, that's fine. But don't butcher history because you are afraid.
it's the end of the convo for me.
yet more proff, stupid people are the problem. God's got nothing to do with it.
please, first shot in the cold war. Like what was going on in Germany and the eastern block wasn't the first shot. You hate religion so much you would warp history and tell 1/2 truths. You may not have agreed with the bomb, but it was not the wrong choice either. It had at least two objectives. the one you sited was one of a few that made it an acceptable choice. Not a pretty choice and not a feel good choice. Get over unicorns and rainbows and deal with what is the world.
unbelievable we have such self hating liberals. hate yourself, that's fine. But don't butcher history because you are afraid.
it's the end of the convo for me.
yet more proff, stupid people are the problem. God's got nothing to do with it.
I do not think Cupper is a Liberal. He sure isn't by my standards.
Japan had offered to surrender but not unconditionally which is what the USA wanted. Was dropping the bombs the right thing or not? I think that is an opinion not a fact. Same goes with was it wrong.
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please, first shot in the cold war. Like what was going on in Germany and the eastern block wasn't the first shot. You hate religion so much you would warp history and tell 1/2 truths. You may not have agreed with the bomb, but it was not the wrong choice either. It had at least two objectives. the one you sited was one of a few that made it an acceptable choice. Not a pretty choice and not a feel good choice. Get over unicorns and rainbows and deal with what is the world.
unbelievable we have such self hating liberals. hate yourself, that's fine. But don't butcher history because you are afraid.
it's the end of the convo for me.
yet more proff, stupid people are the problem. God's got nothing to do with it.
I assume your talking to me (you forgot to use the quote button), but my post did not mention religion, god, Allah, Zeus or Quetzalcoatl. Where are you coming from? Blinded by your prejudice?
McArthur, Ike and a bunch of other people who were in the know were against it, and against it early. I defer to their judgement and explanations. I gave you a proper link with details. Did you even read it before you jumped into your tirade? Read the real history, man! I was snowed for decades also.
BTW, me a liberal? That's a giggle. Most think I'm right of Attila the Hun, but then I also engage my brain. Try it sometimes. It's amazing the effect it has on opening one's eyes.
While this may be true it is not an either/or situation, there are othher ways the situation could have been handled. Meanwhile ask yourself whether it was necessary to bomb BOTH Hiroshima AND Nagasaki with two different versions of the bomb, or whether the attitude was one of punishment and curiosity about the diffence and its effect on people without regard for the humanity of the victims.
It was not about punishment or curiosity. Claiming that is ridiculous.
It was meant to stop a war in which hundreds of thousands were already killed.
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