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Old 05-07-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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No. It is not what Jesus would have done, nor would I have. But I'm not arguing that it is. I'm saying that he has a right as an American to do that. I do not believe that he had Jesus talk to him, nor do I believe he was acting as a Christian ought.
8 do n9t think anyone is claiming that what he did was illegal. I think most of us see it as he was using his rights to be a scumbag. Just as he had the legal right to leave her stranded we have the legal right to denounce his action and you have the legal right to defend him. That is called free speech.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Are you looking at people and deciding who is "perfectly healthy" and who isn't? How, exactly, does one gain that skill?
Indeed. It would require clairvoyance, which Viz's dogma strictly forbids.

My late wife suffered from one of the so-called "invisible illnesses" where on a good day she appeared perfectly normal (though even on a good day, doing mundane things in public was an act of courage -- she just concealed it well so as not to put it on others or be a drama queen) and on a bad day she would not be able to navigate down the hallway of our house without running into walls. Point being that whenever she was seen in public she seemed "fine" or at most a bit tired. There were times she wished that she was missing a leg or an eye or could sport Parkinsonian tremors or something so that people would believe she was ill.

As it was, though, the last church she tried to be involved in she was pretty much spurned because it was difficult for her to commit to other people's schedules due to the unpredictability and sudden onset of most of her symptoms. They saw this as disinterest and lack of commitment or passion, despite her explanations. To the extent they believed her they assumed it was some form of malingering and hypochondria. Maddening for a Type A perfectionist who was once super capable.

So yes, church folks are great at making snap judgments of others based on outward appearance (which god supposedly does not pay attention to or encourage his people to pay attention to), political bumper stickers as with the tow truck driver discussed in this post, or who knows what else.

It really speaks well of their compassion, empathy, and love. Behold how they love one another! But maybe not Outsiders. :-\\
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I do n9ot think anyone is claiming that what he did was illegal. I think most of us see it as he was using his rights to be a scumbag. Just as he had the legal right to leave her stranded we have the legal right to denounce his action and you have the legal right to defend him. That is called free speech.
But is it legal what he did? He was called out to assist this person, a call he accepted only to turned away on discriminatory grounds. He was not obliged to accept the call in the first place but once committed? He denied the woman the opportunity to find someone who would help her at the start.

P.S. Can't rep you again yet, mordant.
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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But is it legal what he did? He was called out to assist this person, a call he accepted only to turned away on discriminatory grounds. He was not obliged to accept the call in the first place but once committed? He denied the woman the opportunity to find someone who would help her at the start.

P.S. Can't rep you again yet, mordant.
What is legal and what is moral are two different things. In my opinion he was acting like a total jerk and left a woman stranded on the road. Few people would have done that. Few would defend what he did.
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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What is legal and what is moral are two different things. In my opinion he was acting like a total jerk and left a woman stranded on the road. Few people would have done that. Few would defend what he did.
Oh yes, definitely immoral. And most definitely un-Christian like.
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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Wonder what he would have done instead of a Bernie sticker he saw a rainbow sticker?
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:30 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Wonder what he would have done instead of a Bernie sticker he saw a rainbow sticker?
Bet the idiot is NRA?
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:13 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Oh yes, definitely immoral. And most definitely un-Christian like.
And yet some who claim to be christian on this very board support his actions. Maybe it was not un-christian, but SOP for those so afflicted by their belief.
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I do not believe that he had Jesus talk to him,.
Not even in his "still, small voice?????"
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Bet the idiot is NRA?
Let us leave the stereotyping to the christian apologists. I've been in meetings in Washington that the NRA also attended.
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