Christian Tow Truck Driver: "God told me to leave disabled woman at the side of the road" (atheism, bible)
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What if a CHRISTIAN MAN or group established a free medical clinic for disables or for those without health insurance? What would you call it? "Ohh you don't have to be a Christian to do this"
You are right, but guess what? RELIGION AND/OR GOD, DOES NOT, DOES NOT, and DOES NOT, tell its followers to do immoral and/or SINFUL THINGS. It's a known and well understood piece of knowledge.
It's the each and every individual who brings whatever he has, to the religion -
PUHLEEAASSEEE use some common sense for a change and try to understand that religion is NOT to be blamed as the source of evil or immorality. It's THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON who brings whatever he has TO the religion.
I think this thread is more about a dirt bag sub-human who has used his religious beliefs to justify his ugly actions. It's not about a Christian behaving in a disgusting manner as such. This is an issue over which you Christians and us Atheists should be uniting in indignation. Remember how we condemned the atheist for his scum bag actions?
You don't HAVE to be a Christian or a religious person to leave a disable woman in trouble.
And you could simply justify it by saying, "I don't believe in God, and I dont care about this disabled woman".
This small child gets hit by a running van in China (huge Atheist population - 47 percent, that is) in a very busy street with 100's of pedestrians, none of the pedestrians cared to even pickup the kid and call n ambulance - They just watched and ignored while rest of the vehicles kept rolling over this kid.
I am sure there must be AT LEAST ONE ATHEIST in those 100's of pedestrians. While rest of those pedestrians and drivers were presumably all evil religious people who were told by God, not to worry about the kid - why didn't the Atheist come to help the kid?
You don't HAVE to be a Christian or a religious person to leave a disable woman in trouble.
And you could simply justify it by saying, "I don't believe in God, and I dont care about this disabled woman".
This small child gets hit by a running van in China (huge Atheist population - 47 percent, that is) in a very busy street with 100's of pedestrians, none of the pedestrians cared to even pickup the kid and call n ambulance - They just watched and ignored while rest of the vehicles kept rolling over this kid.
I am sure there must be AT LEAST ONE ATHEIST in those 100's of pedestrians. While rest of those pedestrians and drivers were presumably all evil religious people who were told by God, not to worry about the kid - why didn't the Atheist come to help the kid?
You just shot yourself in the foot there, Go. 53% of the pedestrians were religious! The truth is, people behave this way in densely populated areas. It's a sickness, not a religious or absence of religion thing.
I think this thread is more about a dirt bag sub-human who has used his religious beliefs to justify his ugly actions. It's not about a Christian behaving in a disgusting manner as such. This is an issue over which you Christians and us Atheists should be uniting in indignation. Remember how we condemned the atheist for his scum bag actions?
This is exactly my point that I have been talking for years.
Between the Athiests and believers, the question is NOT "whether God exists or not?"
The question is how Atheist and believers can co-exist in harmony to join forces and work together towards the betterment and greater benefit of humanity - INSTEAD OF - wasting our time, energy and resources to engage in mud slinging and hosing down contests -
Whether man was created by God or whether man came from monkey? Whether God exists or not? Whether there is an after life or not? Whether we are accountable to God or not? whether the entire universe and everything in it, came together by chance or not? etc
These arguments when turned into quarrels, and ugly sarcasm, do NOT benefit anyone - so better stick to whatever you believe and don't object on what others believe.
See how can you (whether Atheist or a believer) can work with each other on a positive endeavor to benefit humanity.
You just shot yourself in the foot there, Go. 53% of the pedestrians were religious! The truth is, people behave this way in densely populated areas. It's a sickness, not a religious or absence of religion thing.
That's what I am saying - Let's agree with the OP - 53 percent of ALL CORE TO THE BOTTOM EVIL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE - we agree that they were all told by God NOT to help the kid.
But WHAT ABOUT THE 43 % OF ALL CARING LOVING MELLOW SOFT MORALLY CORRECT ATHEISTS PEDESTRIANS???
Why didn't A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ANGELIC ATHEIST COME TO HELP THE KID ???
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Originally Posted by GoCardinals
Same old crap of a post by you, cupper.
What if a CHRISTIAN MAN or group established a free medical clinic for disables or for those without health insurance? What would you call it? "Ohh you don't have to be a Christian to do this"
You are right, but guess what? RELIGION AND/OR GOD, DOES NOT, DOES NOT, and DOES NOT, tell its followers to do immoral and/or SINFUL THINGS. It's a known and well understood piece of knowledge.
It's the each and every individual who brings whatever he has, to the religion -
PUHLEEAASSEEE use some common sense for a change and try to understand that religion is NOT to be blamed as the source of evil or immorality. It's THE INDIVIDUAL PERSON who brings whatever he has TO the religion.
Remember this:
With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.
That's what I am saying - Let's agree with the OP - 53 percent of ALL CORE TO THE BOTTOM EVIL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE - we agree that they were all told by God NOT to help the kid.
But WHAT ABOUT THE 43 % OF ALL CARING LOVING MELLOW SOFT MORALLY CORRECT ATHEISTS PEDESTRIANS???
Why didn't A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE ANGELIC ATHEIST COME TO HELP THE KID ???
Because Atheists are not angelic. Some of them are damn well outright evil. Many of them/us are fine upstanding and compassionate people.
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Originally Posted by cupper3
Remember this:
With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.
cupper is right. My understanding is that cupper is crusading against the evils of religion, not the good people who are religious. And there are those good people. Most of them, I would say.
With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.
For some bad people to AVOID doing bad things, religion helps them as a deterrent.
Many people try to suppress their sinful and/or immoral wishes BECAUSE OF RELIGION. They may or may not be worried about local laws or fellow humans - but they try to avoid sins and evil acts in the love and respect of God.
For some bad people to AVOID doing bad things, religion helps them as a deterrent.
Many people try to suppress their sinful and/or immoral wishes BECAUSE OF RELIGION. They may or may not be worried about local laws or fellow humans - but they try to avoid sins and evil acts in the love and respect of God.
Because Atheists are not angelic. Some of them are damn well outright evil. many of them/us are fine upstanding and compassionate people.
cupper is right. My understanding is that cupper is crusading against the evils of religion, not the good people who are religious. And there are those good people. Most of them, I would say.
There is no evil in religion.
There is evil in HUMANS. (And there is GOOD in humans too)
Religions asks us to suppress that evil in us - Religion asks us not to hurt anyone - not to cheat, lie or deceive etc. Religion also asks us to try to do what's Good.
It's then up to each individual as to what he brings to the religion, how he follows it and how he uses of misuses it.
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