Audacious pastor caught in a lie, and he bragged about it

[cupper3]

Originally Posted by Vizio

His repeatedly tedious threads (all on the same general topic, no less) are what's tiring. His point is that he is trying to attack Christianity. When we tell him that's not typical, we get told we're wrong.

It may not be typical, and I never say it is, but it is frequent enough to be concerning. More concerning though, is those that support or defend that type of behavior. Vizio, you often fall into that. Not always, and to be fair, you have condemned it at times, unlike some other frequent posters here.

I've repeatably have stated that one of the points I am trying to make is that it behooves the greater Christian community to call the nutcases out. When we see significant support for them, or excusing them, it just encourages them or copycats.

Really though...one would think that maybe he'd want to put them all on one thread....since they are all abou the same silly point.

As I say, I try and keep it current. That requires separate threads. In addition, they portray different transgressions and outrages. A whack-a-do lie like what this pastor did in this thread is not the same outrage as the women with 12 kids screaming her head off in Target.

[Vizio]

Originally Posted by cupper3

It may not be typical, and I never say it is, but it is frequent enough to be concerning. More concerning though, is those that support or defend that type of behavior. Vizio, you often fall into that. Not always, and to be fair, you have condemned it at times, unlike some other frequent posters here.

I've repeatably have stated that one of the points I am trying to make is that it behooves the greater Christian community to call the nutcases out. When we see significant support for them, or excusing them, it just encourages them or copycats.



As I say, I try and keep it current. That requires separate threads. In addition, they portray different transgressions and outrages. A whack-a-do lie like what this pastor did in this thread is not the same outrage as the women with 12 kids screaming her head off in Target.

We get it. There are some bad people in the world that self-identify as Christians. What I'd like you to do now is to explain how Christianity causes this?

From my view all you're doing is trying to antagonize and post intentionally offensive things in order to elicit an emotional reaction.

[cupper3]

Originally Posted by Vizio

We get it. There are some bad people in the world that self-identify as Christians. What I'd like you to do now is to explain how Christianity causes this?

What about the so-called good christians, like that woman yelling in Target with her 12 kids forced to take part in that spectacle? Or is she someone you would classify as one of the bad christians?

However, you pose a good question, how to explain that christianity causes it?

There are a number of answers. For those in leadership positions, mostly pastors, who criminally transgress, it is the system that empowers them to do so. Is it the christian philosophy to do those crimes? Absolutely not. But, and the but is, the community they lead look up to those pastors, and, just like other segments of society such as police, judges, nurses, doctors and teachers where stature, and often a less questioning amount of predisposed trust, is bestowed on them. In addition, they preach, literally, what is expected of a good and moral person, and do the opposite. That is hypocritical, and christianity empowers that hypocrisy to exist. So does any other cult or religion.

Secondly, christianity, and other cults and religions do this too, have their zealots who feel the personal need to proselytize their faith. The teachings of some churches emphasis this more than others, just as some muslims are not as radical as others. Those zealots than become the spectacle that the bearer of 12 children was, and other zealots cheer her on or excuse her. If one were to see that the christian community condemned these zealots, rather than defending them, many would not be as suspect of it. I don't see you ever condemning this, so my question is, why would you not?

From my view all you're doing is trying to antagonize and post intentionally offensive things in order to elicit an emotional reaction.

Perhaps the other viewpoint to take is how pervasive these acts are, and if enough are exposed, the christian community would work to mitigate them. Instead, they are excused or championed.