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Old 05-20-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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Except for God's Word as it is recorded. There is evidence, but not that you're willing to consider.

Are you saying that the existence of a book is evidence that everything written in that book is true?
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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Are you saying that the existence of a book is evidence that everything written in that book is true?
Nope. I'm saying the evidence contained in that 66 book collection is evidence for the 66 books. I'm sure you base your faith in anything on the fact that other "experts" attest to it, right? I know that the book of Genesis is correct based on the other 65 books of the Bible that attest to it, and the truths contained in it.

You DO realize that there are 66 different books with different authors and different time frames in which they were written, right? It's not just one book that some madman in the desert compiled (like the koran), nor is it some forgery that a 15 year old boy copied from someone else, and plagiarized Biblical stories into it (Book of Mormon).
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Nope. I'm saying the evidence contained in that 66 book collection is evidence for the 66 books. I'm sure you base your faith in anything on the fact that other "experts" attest to it, right? I know that the book of Genesis is correct based on the other 65 books of the Bible that attest to it, and the truths contained in it.

You DO realize that there are 66 different books with different authors and different time frames in which they were written, right? It's not just one book that some madman in the desert compiled (like the koran), nor is it some forgery that a 15 year old boy copied from someone else, and plagiarized Biblical stories into it (Book of Mormon).
The collection of pamphlets that Constantine decided were written by men channeling god is no more "evidence" of that god than the Qur'an or Book of Mormon.

In fact, probably less, since the pamphlets were written in a more primitive time by even more primitive men.

It's beyond silly that some people still think it contains literal truths.
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: USA
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I know that the book of Genesis is correct based on the other 65 books of the Bible that attest to it, and the truths contained in it.
Just because different authors agree on something doesn't make it true.

There are whole collections of books (by different authors) about 9/11 conspiracies, new age medicine, aliens, a faked moon landing, Obama's Kenyan citizenship, etc.
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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Nope. I'm saying the evidence contained in that 66 book collection is evidence for the 66 books.
Please point out this evidence in detail.

Can you do it?
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Your opinion does not make fact. I would challenge you to consult a dictionary to see the difference between murder and execution.
I agree, my opinion does not make fact. My disagreement is not with the dictionary definitions of murder vs. execution, but rather with the notion that if God wants to commit mass murder of evil little infants, it's somehow not murder and thus is perfectly just and OK. That notion is your opinion. Your opinion also does not make fact.
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:08 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Except for God's Word as it is recorded. There is evidence, but not that you're willing to consider.
You believe that the Bible is God's Word. That is different from it actually being God's Word. Again, your opinion does not make fact.
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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I've explained it. My kids shower at school. I don't want boys in the locker room with them.

I also do not want them going into a women's bathroom where I cannot see what is going on, knowing that it is possible for a man to enter that bathroom where they are in a potential state of undress.
It's already possible. It's been possible their entire lives.
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Old 05-20-2016, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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There's zero proof that Islam is a fairy tale, and yet you are not a Muslim.

There's zero proof that Santa Claus is a fairy tale, and yet you don't believe in Santa.

There's zero proof that the Invisible Space Lizards are a fairy tale, and yet you don't believe in the Invisible Space Lizards.

There's zero proof that The Matrix is fictional, and yet you don't believe that we're all living in The Matrix.

There's zero proof that Christianity is fictional, and yet you DO believe the claims of Christianity. That seems inconsistent. You clearly have a double standard.
The Matrixt is 100% real. That movie was a documentary.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Nope. I'm saying the evidence contained in that 66 book collection is evidence for the 66 books. I'm sure you base your faith in anything on the fact that other "experts" attest to it, right? I know that the book of Genesis is correct based on the other 65 books of the Bible that attest to it, and the truths contained in it.

You DO realize that there are 66 different books with different authors and different time frames in which they were written, right? It's not just one book that some madman in the desert compiled (like the koran), nor is it some forgery that a 15 year old boy copied from someone else, and plagiarized Biblical stories into it (Book of Mormon).
Specifically, what biblical story is plagiarized in the Book of Mormon, Vizio? I'm all ears.
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