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Old 05-13-2021, 01:54 PM
 
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Not true. The evidence we ask for must be verifiable, and must have better data to support it than natural explanations.



Well, if that's the case, than to be philosophically consistent you would also have to throw away most modern medicine and other branches of the sciences. Ever heard of a little number called The Replication Crisis?

https://www.nature.com/articles/533452a





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If we do not have the knowledge and capacity to verify AND validate that “evidence”, then you do not have the knowledge and capacity to make your claim.

Unless one does not subscribe to the school of Positivism. I do not. Hence, faith is a perfectly acceptable justification for belief.
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Old 05-13-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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He's a JW. He gets brownie points from his Masters in NY for annoying people.

Covid means no more knocking on physical doors for a while. So they've been ordered to pollute the internet.

I consider it a secondary infection of the pandemic - a variant, if you will.



Yep, the pandemic has them behaving like the Fedora anti-theists have been behaving for years.
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Old 05-13-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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Not irrational in the slightest.

It is absolutely irrational. I proudly hold many irrational beliefs. Your point?





Again, "rational" is not synonymous with "good". And "good" in and of itself is a value judgement and hence it is beyond the scope of reason.



I do not hold to the Positivist worldview and hence I am more than happy holding irrational beliefs. It should also be noted that overwhelming majority of humans hold irrational beliefs, but many are just unwilling to admit it.
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:01 PM
 
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The question is why are they stating this? It appears they do care.



I know, right! The nerve or some people! Stating an opinion and starting a discussion on an internet discussion forum! What next, drinking coffee at Starbucks or something?
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Old 05-14-2021, 12:07 AM
 
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Well, if that's the case, than to be philosophically consistent you would also have to throw away most modern medicine and other branches of the sciences. Ever heard of a little number called The Replication Crisis?

https://www.nature.com/articles/533452a
Yes, I know of this problem. But a simple look at the paper shows reproducibility is a problem only when it does not occur. It does not mean that most experiments are not reproducible, just that it happens more than it should. If you look at the second diagram, you see most experiments are reproducible, especially in chemistry, physics and engineering, and even medicine and biology the experiments are mostly reproducible.

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Unless one does not subscribe to the school of Positivism. I do not. Hence, faith is a perfectly acceptable justification for belief.
That is in order, I just ask myself why you need to tell people?
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Old 05-14-2021, 12:21 AM
 
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I know, right! The nerve or some people! Stating an opinion and starting a discussion on an internet discussion forum! What next, drinking coffee at Starbucks or something?
I was just curious about what appears to be a contradictory position, I was not condemning you. But now you are upset when someone joins in?
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Old 05-14-2021, 03:08 PM
 
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I know, right! The nerve or some people! Stating an opinion and starting a discussion on an internet discussion forum! What next, drinking coffee at Starbucks or something?
in a forum about beliefs none the less.
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