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Many scholars believe that the book of Genesis was written well after Deuteronomy and Leviticus, partially to give the Jews a history.
God's admonition to take all animals two by two, but those that were 'clean' take seven by seven seems incongruent with what Noah would have known. The dietary laws were not handed down until much later, according to the bible, so Noah could not have known about them. The only way those passages could have been put into Genesis is if that book was written after Moses got them.
Since when do stories have to be factually correct? Then again, the story is factually incorrect! It's a bit rich telling someone his intellectual understanding is limited and flawed for not believing a story.
you sound confused. i won't try to untangle those knots you've tied.
if a person stays with only a superficial view of anything, then they never gain a deeper understanding of that which is beyond the superficial.
whether that is a book, or a person, or a relationship, or the origins of the universe, or the Divine, or the events of their own life.
levels of understanding and meaning never end. it is an ongoing source of delight and wonder. but if a person stays stack looking only at the superficial, well, they stay stuck.
One could argue both ways. It's a story. Since when do stories have to be factually correct? Then again, the story is factually incorrect!
It's a bit rich telling someone his intellectual understanding is limited and flawed for not believing a story.
It is quite clear (even in their own hearts, although they attempt to hide and cover it over [and sometimes succeed depending on how powerful their love of happy ignorance is]) that Bibliolaters do not deserve immorality in any good, nor even mediocre, world.
And indeed they are as dead and ancient as the writers of their books. They are merely frankenstein's monsters asleep, and the doctor is long dead! They have words but cannot think. They have spines but cannot stand in reality. They purport believe merely a bit of a little but do not understand even that much. They have lofty covers, but their insides are two-dimensional. They purport long winded and unsubstantiatable/untestable stories, but in the end are really only full of themselves!
To believe a story without evidence is to believe any story without evidence. To believe a story on faith and confirmation bias is to believe any story on faith and confirmation bias. To believe a story because some of the things within it seem true and confirmed to you is to believe any story just for those same reasons.
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To believe a story without evidence is to believe any story without evidence.
perhaps one day you will grow into using the perceptive faculties that every human has,
that at this time you ignore, deny, and devalue. those faculties allow you to explore and navigate beyond the superficial levels.
perhaps one day you will grow into using the perceptive faculties that every human has,
that at this time you ignore, deny, and devalue. those faculties allow you to explore and navigate beyond the superficial levels.
I do believe you are projecting. The Bibliolatries are all grossly different and a true and heart-felt testament against each other.
I have worked with various venerated books and have seen through and through what they really are, I have understood the intensions of their writers, patrons, editors, scribes, translators, interpreters and reinterpreters.
Like I said: to believe a story on faith and confirmation bias is to believe any story on faith and confirmation bias. To believe a story because some of the things within it seem true and confirmed to you is to believe any story just for those same reasons.
But to be a Bibliolater requires rebellion against what is obviously good in our deepest and best emotion and logic, this is obviously so in the hearts of all good and deserving people. The undeserving people flock to any pretty siren calls in order to pretend, they seek after their own comforts. Moths to varied flames. And truly deserving of a fitting end. All people are deserving, just like all people are undeserving.
How could you deny this lovely truth against the evil stain of Bibliolatry? How could anyone devalue what is truly obvious in physical fact?
Awaken, hatch into reality: rejoice in evaluation, acceptance, and focus! Begone are the dark ages of hiding under the covers of newly printed books pretending to be old, as if though that were a virtue! Here and Now is the act of study, Here and Now is a guide to everything. So where is is that these old and contradicting books and cafeteria pick-and-choose interpretations will take you, but to your death bed?
...requires rebellion against what is obviously good in our deepest and best emotion and logic, this is obviously so in the hearts of all good and deserving people. The undeserving people flock to any pretty siren calls in order to pretend, they seek after their own comforts. Moths to varied flames. And truly deserving of a fitting end. All people are deserving, just like all people are undeserving.
How could you deny this lovely truth against the evil stain of Bibliolatry? How could anyone devalue what is truly obvious in physical fact? Awaken, hatch into reality: rejoice in evaluation, acceptance, and focus! Begone are the dark ages of hiding under the covers of newly printed books pretending to be old, as if though that were a virtue! Here and Now is the act of study, Here and Now is a guide to everything. So where is is that these old and contradicting books and cafeteria pick-and-choose interpretations will take you, but to your death bed?
Too bad. Well here, I will give you your own quotes so that you can meditate on how they might apply to yourself, rather than to non-book venerators (those who aren't Bibliolaters of one kind or the other).
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
you sound confused. i won't try to untangle those knots you've tied.
if a person stays with only a superficial view of anything, then they never gain a deeper understanding of that which is beyond the superficial.
whether that is a book, or a person, or a relationship, or the origins of the universe, or the Divine, or the events of their own life.
levels of understanding and meaning never end. it is an ongoing source of delight and wonder. but if a person stays stack looking only at the superficial, well, they stay stuck.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
perhaps one day you will grow into using the perceptive faculties that every human has,
that at this time you ignore, deny, and devalue. those faculties allow you to explore and navigate beyond the superficial levels.
Bibliolatry is flawed and lacking, so is Genesis, so are the Qurans in Arabia, so is the statue of Jesus in Brazil, so are the statues of Buddha in China.
Such irrational fixations found in Bibliolaters and Idolaters are guilty of wrongdoing in their very own nature.
I have worked with various venerated books and have seen through and through what they really are, I have understood the intensions of their writers, patrons, editors, scribes, translators, interpreters and reinterpreters.
if i understand you correctly, you have a strongly held low opinion of "venerated books"
however many people do find them a veritable treasure map that reveals unending wonders and delights
in cultivating relationship with the Divine
do you reject the Divine also, or just the texts which seek to be a map leading us to the Divine?
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Amen to that! 
