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However, God knows how a PERSON sees things, right? And I'm guessing He gets that He's so far above us and we need help understanding and so on, so forth? He's God, after all. He's supposed to know everything. Every detail.
When my children were toddlers, I understood the limits of their understanding and I spoke on that level. I didn't read college textbooks to them and then say, "Okay, now I've given you all the tools and information you need. Good luck!" and then send them crawling across the freeway with a cheerful wave good-bye.
If even a stupid sinful spiritually bankrupt sinner human gets this concept, it's pretty ridiculous to say God can't, and manages to accidentally reckon time in His way, not the human way, when speaking to humans and directing a life instruction manual for humans.
Apologetics always rely on people being okay with God being stupid and forgetful ("Oh oops, should have reckoned that in human years...that whole earth revolving around the sun thing, oh yeah, THAT kind of year...like, a YEAR sort of year...darn it! Ah well, too late now, in it stays") and somehow utterly ignorant of how human beings think.
Many things taught in the bible were said in a roundabout way--for one it kept satan and his angels in spiritual darkness--most of mankind as well--even Gods own angels desired to know certain truths- 1Peter 1:12)
That way satan couldn't twist it all into oblivion like he tried through the apostasy that rose up after the apostles and followers were killed off.-2Thess 2:3)
Jesus left certain marks that his one single religion would accomplish-- Like--love amongst themselves--as well as 1Cor 1:10-- unity of thought--no division.
Gods choices are always the right choice-- mortals see little, base decisions on the little they see. God makes decisions on whats best for all for all time. A mortal doesn't have a clue as how to think like that.
Why would an all powerful and knowing god make comments that might be misinterpreted, especially when they were made so vociferously? He was not vacillating, as opposed to most evangelicals.
To keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness. The teachings of Jesus lead one to Gods one true religion. Few know what Jesus actually taught. Most cant be bothered to take the time to learn all of his teachings--instead listen to men who tickle their ears for $$$$$$. They assure them--you are saved or born again--yet they do not know. From these teachers I say run quickly away.
8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
The upshot is that God isn't very good at telling time.
Actually he is the ancient of days( Dan 7:13-15)--he could be trillions of years old--I see growing older a week runs by like nothing now--a year is half as long as when I was a child it seems.
God is always correct.
No, the Greek "genea" means this race. It means mankind itself,
not a "generation" in the sense of modern world, where every
begetting is a new "generation". That is a new concept.
The early English translators relied on the French meaning also.
At the time, "generation" meant production of. It meant propagation.
Thus, the verse is misunderstood by many modern English readers.
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No, the Greek "genea" means this race. It means mankind itself,
not a "generation" in the sense of modern world, where every
begetting is a new "generation". That is a new concept.
The early English translators relied on the French meaning also.
At the time, "generation" meant production of. It meant propagation.
Thus, the verse is misunderstood by many modern English readers.
Wrong. Although "race" can be a translation, it is not the most common translation, and dare one say, in context.
But why am I not surprised that a fundamentalist would twist and turn when it comes to biblical stuff. It is such a common pattern.
Yes. The context certainly indicates the people living at the time (who would "Not taste death" until it all came about as predicted at the talk on the mount of Olives), not the human race as a whole.
Yes. The context certainly indicates the people living at the time (who would "Not taste death" until it all came about as predicted at the talk on the mount of Olives), not the human race as a whole.
When Jesus made the statement-- some of you standing here will never taste death--- some of you here meant--true followers( but not for then) because every one of them tasted death. It meant for the true followers who would be changed in the twinkling of an eye during the tribulation( remaining little flock) and brought to heaven to fill the 144,000 number-- and the great multitude were promised to be brought through Har-mageddon and inherit the earth.( Prov 2:21-22--Matt 24:22) Its these who will never taste death.
That's a decent explanation. I don't buy it myself, because it makes better sense that it was in the context of the immediate future. Take Mark 12 end and 13 first verses, when Jesus talks of one stone not being left on another - a prediction of the temple and not to be taken literally. A number of stones were left on the others even to today, but to let them think that the imminent destruction of the Temple was what he was talking about when he was talking about thousands of years in the future is very odd exposition.
My take...and I know it won't be yours..is that the writers who used this talk in the Gospel they had (John didn't, and doesn't have this talk at all) ..were writing when the Temple had been destroyed in recent history and they were expecting 'These Things' any day now. That didn't come about and so of course it has to be all re -interpreted to refer to a couple of thousand years in the future.
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