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Sure the truth is that the world would more peaceful without atheism and FALSE religion ..... See to Know the true God who is the prince of peace and has the spiritual authority to being peace beyond the imagination of most people ......
Sure the truth is that the world would more peaceful without atheism and FALSE religion ..... See to Know the true God who is the prince of peace and has the spiritual authority to being peace beyond the imagination of most people ......
As long as you regard the personal beliefs of others as false and your personal beliefs as binding on others because the are true ... you will be part of the problem rather than the solution when it comes to strife and conflict in the world. Because in your mind, being right gives you the authority to impose your beliefs on others, condemn people you don't know to hell, etc.
More peaceful? I doubt it. Not sure where you live but, none of the crimes committed here, just on a local level, on a daily basis are done in the name of religion. We will always be violent creatures. We always have been. Not saying we aren't capable of being "good", but, as another poster pointed out, you can continue to add things to the statement reading "the world would be more peaceful without..." and ultimately, you'd end with "life".
Sure the truth is that the world would more peaceful without atheism and FALSE religion ..... See to Know the true God who is the prince of peace and has the spiritual authority to being peace beyond the imagination of most people ......
Looks like 80+% disagree with you.
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Originally Posted by Ceig
More peaceful? I doubt it. Not sure where you live but, none of the crimes committed here, just on a local level, on a daily basis are done in the name of religion. We will always be violent creatures. We always have been. Not saying we aren't capable of being "good", but, as another poster pointed out, you can continue to add things to the statement reading "the world would be more peaceful without..." and ultimately, you'd end with "life".
That's fair enough, but the problem is not with individual criminals but with organized religion and most specifically religions that sway politics.
There would be more peace for a while without religion. But then someone would invent one and others would see him becoming wealthy and start their own and after enough time people would forget that there ever was a time without religion. They would see something or someone that their religion forbids and eventually we would be back to where we are today.
As long as you regard the personal beliefs of others as false and your personal beliefs as binding on others because the are true ... you will be part of the problem rather than the solution when it comes to strife and conflict in the world. Because in your mind, being right gives you the authority to impose your beliefs on others, condemn people you don't know to hell, etc.
Get rid of the necrodestination punishment/reward idea...and the, "my beliefs are *true & right* and yours are *wrong*", describes both the Religious and the Atheists equally.
Just read this board. Heck, just read your post...you just condemned the Religious only, and labeled them "the problem". As if you didn't just do EXACTLY what you criticized them for.
There would be more peace for a while without religion. But then someone would invent one and others would see him becoming wealthy and start their own and after enough time people would forget that there ever was a time without religion. They would see something or someone that their religion forbids and eventually we would be back to where we are today.
That's the danger (what I call the Startrek syndrome, or the Khan dictum. "How little man himself as changed!") and the only answer is better education, or a different emphasis in education. More logic and reason, less competition and regimentation.
That's the danger (what I call the Startrek syndrome, or the Khan dictum. "How little man himself as changed!") and the only answer is better education, or a different emphasis in education. More logic and reason, less competition and regimentation.
But we do have better education and still the human population overwhelmingly believes in a god/creator/religion.
We are in the 21st century, and still there are many who believe fables from 2100 years ago. Crazy, but that is the way it is.
Yes society is so much more peaceful when an atheist ruler takes over. Examples from history:
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered
Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered
But we do have better education and still the human population overwhelmingly believes in a god/creator/religion.
That isn't the point. As education improves and becomes more pervasive, belief in god has decreased.
That theism is still a majority, is beside the point. The point is that the majority is shrinking in better educated and more prosperous social groups.
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