Once again, the Freedom From Religion Foundation forces removal of religious symbolism
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So is Stalin, but we still get it chucked at us, occasionally.
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Originally Posted by GldnRule
One thing it DOES make true, for sure...we have had a bunch of chumps running this Country. At least as regards Separation of Religion and Government.
I'm almost inclined to agree with you. But politics is not about getting at the facts; it is about winning. And education does not teach the critical skills needed to see through the rhetoric they use to get their own way if they can.
By the way, what is separation of religion and Government? Separation of Chuch and State I know about, but I never heard of that one. Is it something you invented?
You see, old chum, I have developed a few critical thinking skills, and it is rather easy to see though your ploys and misdirections.
p.s or at least when one has seen it. I have to admit that interpreting this Separation as meaning that the State had no business to interfere in the administrations of various states doing whatever they liked ...to have their government officially endorsing, promoting and pushing a particular religion..was a rather clever one.
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The ironic thing is to a non-Christian, Romans 13:4 should just be meaningless words. A person actually has to go look up the chapter and verse in the Bible to found out the message.
Even then, I don't see this as any violation of the Establishment Clause. A decal that said Christianity is the official religion of the Harper police dept. If I ever need services of a police officer, fireman or EMS, the last thought I am going to have is gee, I hope that person is a Christian. The only concern should be that they have proper training and provide appropriate care and assistance to the needed situation. You know, doing their job.
Of course YOU wouldn't, jeff It's so ironic that the police department would paste a Bible reference on their cop cars. When people are having a life threatening emergency, they don't pray the emergency away; they dial 911, depending on help from HUMANS. As an aside, I met and worked closely with Annie when I was involved in an FFRF case with her. She is a physically tiny woman, rather reserved, and acts meek and defenseless, but her wallflower appearance is only a facade. She is a tiger in the courtroom and rarely loses a case. I admire her greatly.
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I'm almost inclined to agree with you. But politics is not about getting at the facts; it is about winning. And education does not teach the critical skills needed to see through the rhetoric they use to get their own way if they can.
By the way, what is separation of religion and Government? Separation of Chuch and State I know about, but I never heard of that one. Is it something you invented?
You see, old chum, I have developed a few critical thinking skills, and it is rather easy to see though your ploys and misdirections.
p.s or at least when one has seen it. I have to admit that interpreting this Separation as meaning that the State had no business to interfere in the administrations of various states doing whatever they liked ...to have their government officially endorsing, promoting and pushing a particular religion..was a rather clever one.
My "Separation" statement of "Religion and Government" comes from the wording in the Constitution: In the 1st Amendments' Establishment/Free Exercise clause the term "Religion" (not "church") is used, and "Congress" equates to "Government" much better than "State", IMO.
So, yeah...I guess it is my "invention".
That "Separation of Church and State" was years after the Constitution was written...and just part of a letter Jefferson was writing to the Danbury Baptists. He attended Religious services held in the Capitol days later. No greater hypocrite has the world ever known.
As you know...I can't stand Jefferson (slavemaster, gender oppressing, genocidal, barbarian...while touting "All are equal") and rate him lower than Hitler and Genghis Kahn (at least Hitler and Kahn layed their cards on the table).
So there is a "Jeffertosis" factor to my changing it as well.
I bow and scrape before you and your wisdom, o' Mighty Queen!
So do I.
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
Why, don't atheists get direct deposit like the rest of us?
That's a good one. Pay for everything with card on the grounds that religious scruples prevent you from handling dollars. If the shopkeeper refuses to accept the card and insists on bulls, sue him for infringement of your religious freedom.
What? Spexit??? My Peru mate came up with the headline of headlines..if the Mods let it pass... "Britain Fuxit".
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Originally Posted by Scooby Snacks
Of course YOU wouldn't, jeff It's so ironic that the police department would paste a Bible reference on their cop cars. When people are having a life threatening emergency, they don't pray the emergency away; they dial 911, depending on help from HUMANS. As an aside, I met and worked closely with Annie when I was involved in an FFRF case with her. She is a physically tiny woman, rather reserved, and acts meek and defenseless, but her wallflower appearance is only a facade. She is a tiger in the courtroom and rarely loses a case. I admire her greatly.
She sounds fantastic. I mean "Great" not "imaginary".
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But politics is not about getting at the facts; it is about winning. And education does not teach the critical skills needed to see through the rhetoric they use to get their own way if they can. 
It's so ironic that the police department would paste a Bible reference on their cop cars. When people are having a life threatening emergency, they don't pray the emergency away; they dial 911, depending on help from HUMANS. As an aside, I met and worked closely with Annie when I was involved in an FFRF case with her. She is a physically tiny woman, rather reserved, and acts meek and defenseless, but her wallflower appearance is only a facade. She is a tiger in the courtroom and rarely loses a case. I admire her greatly.
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She sounds fantastic. I mean "Great" not "imaginary".
