Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 07-08-2016, 01:29 PM
 
28,895 posts, read 54,177,901 times
Reputation: 46685

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eusebius View Post
From the FFRF letter sent to the schools:

"Ham is free to erect monuments to the bible, but public schools are not permitted to expose the children in their charge to religious myths and proselytizing. So, public schools cannot organize trips for students to either the Creation Museum or the Ark Park. Doing so would violate the students’ rights of conscience and the U.S. Constitution."

That's kind of hypocritical that children are not allowed to be exposed to "religious myths" (as if they can actually prove they are "myths"), but children are allowed to be exposed to atheist myths such as evolution (which is proven to be false) and the like, but that doesn't violate student's rights.
You can go visit the Ark any time you please. But not only does it promote a Christian viewpoint, but a very limited fundamentalist viewpoint.

And anybody who says evolution is disproved is just a crank. The body of evidence is overwhelming. Do you get a flu shot every year? The fact that they have developed a new flu vaccine to account for new strains is proof.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-08-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
2,013 posts, read 1,430,337 times
Reputation: 4062
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffbase40 View Post
No we are humans. There is no other creature on earth like us. Because we are not animals.
Just because some of our population exhibit the intelligence of a rutabaga doesn't mean we are not animals.

Any member of the chordata phylum, which includes humans, are most definitely classified as belonging to the animal kingdom. That's a pretty basic scientific definition.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
10,202 posts, read 7,928,903 times
Reputation: 4561
Quote:
Originally Posted by unihills View Post
Just because some of our population exhibit the intelligence of a rutabaga doesn't mean we are not animals.

Any member of the chordata phylum, which includes humans, are most definitely classified as belonging to the animal kingdom. That's a pretty basic scientific definition.

Can't feed facts to those who think only with emotions.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 03:15 PM
 
10,090 posts, read 5,739,706 times
Reputation: 2901
Quote:
Originally Posted by unihills View Post
Just because some of our population exhibit the intelligence of a rutabaga doesn't mean we are not animals.

Any member of the chordata phylum, which includes humans, are most definitely classified as belonging to the animal kingdom. That's a pretty basic scientific definition.
That's like saying a boat and a car are the same thing because they both have engines.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 03:17 PM
 
10,090 posts, read 5,739,706 times
Reputation: 2901
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpg35223 View Post
You can go visit the Ark any time you please. But not only does it promote a Christian viewpoint, but a very limited fundamentalist viewpoint.

And anybody who says evolution is disproved is just a crank. The body of evidence is overwhelming. Do you get a flu shot every year? The fact that they have developed a new flu vaccine to account for new strains is proof.
And it's still a strain. It never becomes something completely 100% different. So no, it's not proof.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
11,030 posts, read 5,993,059 times
Reputation: 5705
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffbase40 View Post
That's like saying a boat and a car are the same thing because they both have engines.
Yes, they both have engines that propel them. That makes them both vehicles. Just because a boat goes on water and not on land like the commonly thought of motor vehicle, does not make it not a vehicle. Funny thing, a bicycle does not have an engine yet it is still a vehicle. That's by definition.

Similarly, we are by definition animal and mammal and a chordate. You say we are made in your god's image? You believe this god then drowned everything (except for an olive branch)? And you worship him? That's just plumb crazy!

Can you see why we want to keep our kids away from this kind of indoctrination?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffbase40 View Post
And it's still a strain. It never becomes something completely 100% different. So no, it's not proof.
I rest my case.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 03:58 PM
 
9,345 posts, read 4,329,567 times
Reputation: 3023
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffbase40 View Post
And it's still a strain. It never becomes something completely 100% different. So no, it's not proof.
Jeff I am going to take a break from my self imposed exile of not responding to you

If a flu virus ever evolved to something completely different from its parent that would disprove the theory of evolution. Ring species are great examples of how evulotion works, you can barely tell the difference between two adjacent populations but once you come all the way around the ring the first and last populations are so different you can easily tell them apart and they might not be able to interbreed. The child will always be more similar to the parent then different.

Until you understand evolution enough to be know how it works and doesn't work, your claims that it is a lie or that we are stupid to accept it will not be taken with any seriousness.

Or if you do not wish to make an effort to know how evolution actually is claimed to work you can simply state that the theory of evolution contradicts your faith and therefore you choose to reject it. As long as you do neither your proclamations in regards to evulotion are baseless and oft times comes off as sounding silly. But you are not alone, most creationist sites demand evidence for evolution that instead of proving evolution would disprove it. But no one can make that choice for you.

I have made every effort to straightforward honest and civil in this post. You are of corse free to take it in any other manner you so choose. Again your choice.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 05:25 PM
 
17,966 posts, read 15,977,818 times
Reputation: 1010
Quote:
Originally Posted by cupper3 View Post
Can't feed facts to those who think only with emotions.
Right. That certainly goes for people who believe in fairy tales like evolution.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 07:41 PM
 
10,090 posts, read 5,739,706 times
Reputation: 2901
Quote:
Originally Posted by 303Guy View Post
Yes, they both have engines that propel them. That makes them both vehicles. Just because a boat goes on water and not on land like the commonly thought of motor vehicle, does not make it not a vehicle. Funny thing, a bicycle does not have an engine yet it is still a vehicle. That's by definition.
You can group anything together if you go wide and broad enough. You might as well say humans and insects are the same. We are all living creature. Well guess what, if you kill a bug, that makes you a murder in the insane atheist world. And if you enjoy going to the zoo then you are pro-slavery.


Quote:
Originally Posted by 303Guy View Post


Similarly, we are by definition animal and mammal and a chordate. You say we are made in your god's image? You believe this god then drowned everything (except for an olive branch)? And you worship him? That's just plumb crazy!

Really, you think the vast majority of the world's population are crazy for having faith? God destroyed the earth because man had grown too wicked. Look what happens when we turn away from God in our day. Our society is falling apart. Policeman used to be highly respected. Now they are shot in the back.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2016, 07:43 PM
 
10,090 posts, read 5,739,706 times
Reputation: 2901
Quote:
Originally Posted by badlander View Post
Jeff I am going to take a break from my self imposed exile of not responding to you

If a flu virus ever evolved to something completely different from its parent that would disprove the theory of evolution. Ring species are great examples of how evulotion works, you can barely tell the difference between two adjacent populations but once you come all the way around the ring the first and last populations are so different you can easily tell them apart and they might not be able to interbreed. The child will always be more similar to the parent then different.

Until you understand evolution enough to be know how it works and doesn't work, your claims that it is a lie or that we are stupid to accept it will not be taken with any seriousness.

Or if you do not wish to make an effort to know how evolution actually is claimed to work you can simply state that the theory of evolution contradicts your faith and therefore you choose to reject it. As long as you do neither your proclamations in regards to evulotion are baseless and oft times comes off as sounding silly. But you are not alone, most creationist sites demand evidence for evolution that instead of proving evolution would disprove it. But no one can make that choice for you.

I have made every effort to straightforward honest and civil in this post. You are of corse free to take it in any other manner you so choose. Again your choice.

Well you just wasted your time. Evolution is a lie.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:08 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top