The IRS wants to know why this pastor owns five houses but pays no taxes (Jewish, Christian)
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What does anything you said have to do with the church paying for five houses, including utilities, for the Meyers family?
You should start up a collection for poor Joyce...in case she needs spa-time or sumthin to help her cope with all the stress this must be causing her. Or maybe we could pay to fly June there to administer some Talk Therapy to make her feel better.
If she had one nice house, I really wouldn't give a damn. I don't expect her to live in a cardboard shack (we have far too many people in that situation already), but I would expect someone to whom pride is supposedly a 'deadly sin' to be a bit more mindful of appearances.
And yeah, the IRS would have nailed her if she was really doing something 'wrong'. That's not my point.
My point is that she owns five homes. Why? Answer that one simple question: why?
What can she possibly do in her ministry with five homes that isn't possible with just one?
Why do you think it's 'justifiable' that she lives the life of a Tom Cruise or a Will Smith, when humility is one of the core tenets of the Christian faith?
Why is she buying five houses when there are approximately 3.5 million people in the US that don't even have one? Isn't that an expression of 'greed'? That's another of the 'seven deadlies', by the way.
I wonder when exactly in the history of Christianity (excluding the Roman Catholics) that pastors began living high on the hog?...
What does anything you said have to do with the church paying for five houses, including utilities, for the Meyers family?
Their church agreed to it. If the members had any brains in their heads they'd stop supporting such a crooked woman, stop attending her church and start attending a different one. Doesn't change the fact that it's a religion's choice to support her lavish lifestyle. And that decision by that religion is legally tax exempt.
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Just to get the facts straight, there is no church, there are no parishioners and there are no "parsonages." Joyce Meyer is a Christian teacher who has a ministry. She has written a bazillion books. I see them on sale at Walmart, KMart, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc. Many people buy them, not just Christians. That's probably where a lot of her wealth comes from. Beyond that I don't know. But let's at least start with the facts.
Just to get the facts straight, there is no church, there are no parishioners and there are no "parsonages." Joyce Meyer is a Christian teacher who has a ministry. She has written a bazillion books. I see them on sale at Walmart, KMart, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc. Many people buy them, not just Christians. That's probably where a lot of her wealth comes from. Beyond that I don't know. But let's at least start with the facts.
Your point is well taken. The URL cited by the OP is from a Christian site and is referring to her as a pastor but what she operates is what is technically termed a "para-church ministry", essentially she is an author and public speaker on Christian topics but she is not a "pastor" and does not operate a "church".
I think the OP can be forgiven for assuming that a sympathetic Christian source is accurately referring to her in articles it posts, but this article probably reflects contention within the church pitting the so-called "prosperity gospel" promoters against those who oppose the notion. So the article is probably not as biased in her favor as one might initially suspect.
That said, she still operates a 503(c) non-profit and has to abide by the IRS rules for those ... and the qualifications, ethically speaking, would be very similar to those of a church pastor, particularly of a megachurch.
It looks like the IRS has let her off the hook and she has taken a more defensibly transparent method of operation since. She used to donate her book royalties to her non-profit ministry and now keeps them for herself, which means she pays taxes on her book royalties which are no longer offset by "donating" them to her ministry. And while she can no longer benefit from those "donations" being used to buy her personal things, it has probably cut the overhead of the non-profit and improved its ratings as well. In fact her nonprofit is now certified by the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability.
Your point is well taken. The URL cited by the OP is from a Christian site and is referring to her as a pastor but .....she is an author and public speaker on Christian topics but she is not a "pastor" and does not operate a "church".
yet another thread started by cupper where he can't even get the story straight, but resorts to his rabid frothing, fraught with inaccuracies. she is not a pastor, she does not have a church, and she does not have parishioners. She is a successful author.
once again cupper and his knee jerk National Enquirer mentality and lack of credibility,
yet another example of he "read it on the internet so it must be true"
Last edited by Tzaphkiel; 07-10-2016 at 06:57 PM..
yet another thread started by cupper where he can't even get the story straight, but resorts to his rabid frothing, fraught with inaccuracies. she is not a pastor,
From the linked article, she is quoted as saying: "You can be a businessman here in St. Louis, and people think the more you have, the more wonderful it is … but if you’re a preacher, then all of a sudden it becomes a problem.”
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she does not have a church,
The article repeatedly refers to her ministry, and it's tax exempt status.
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and she does not have parishioners.
The article makes reference to her followers.
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She is a successful author.
once again cupper and his knee jerk National Enquirer mentality and lack of credibility,
yet another example of he "read it on the internet so it must be true"
So cupper linked to a Christian site talking about her ministry, her tax exempt status, her followers, and the fact that the organization provides housing for her. I think he pretty much nailed it.
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