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Old 03-08-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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So if a gay person accepted Jesus Christ as their savior then they could still get into Heaven?
Yes they can, of course I believe their lifestyle would change, but that is for another thread, many of which we already have here. But the answer to your question is yes, anyone can accept Jesus as their Savior.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:06 PM
 
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It's confusing to say the least. And the way organized religions keep changing things, like some priests can marry, some can't. Some allow women priests, some don't. Then the wording gets changed every so many years. Everyone has their own opinion, how does anyone know what the real version is? For a kid who is just starting out and a parent who has learned this ages ago, it must be hard to keep up with the different interpretations.
The problem is the Bible tells us there is no private interpretation. Another words we should never look to a man, a woman, or a religion for out belief. We need to focus on the Bible itself. That's why Jesus said to look to no person for your faith. The study of God's Word is the only way we really can learn the truth, and the Bible tells us the Holy Spirit will guide us. I follow the older King James version, and even that one has to be questioned. Yet I have found it on only the most remote parts. Some of the more modern versions of the Bible have really watered down it's message, so I stick with as close to the orginal text as I can. I have found that often what is taught by many main line churches often donot square with the Scriptures, and I can see why Christ told us not to look to men for our understanding.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Howdy all,

I was in my R.S. (Religious Studies) class today and I was browsing over a sheet listing the Ten Commandments and it got me thinking. The Bible is full of rules and regs that everyone must abide by in order to live a good, righteous life and make it into Heaven but why is it that lots of the things that are denounced aren't featured in the Commandments? Just one example is homosexuality. The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin but if it is really that bad in God's eyes then why didn't he make a Commandment, 'Thou shalt not be homosexual'? It wouldn't half clear up a lot of confusion. There are other situations where this occurs to however I'm far to lazy to start listing them.

Also how come the Bible contradicts itself with regard to the Commandments, specifically 'Thou shalt not kill'? That message couldn't be any clearer but if you were to list everything the Bible says you should be put to death for you'd be writing for ages. Just seems a bit of a contradiction to me.

Just a few thoughts,

Will/boycew02
See Christian call them 10 commandments but Jews call them 613 Mitzvot. It is actually 613 laws. Also the laws is Thou shalt not murder...Murder and kill are different.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Okay but I still don't understand why they aren't specific. There are ten Commandments but seemingly hundreds of hidden laws that you must also follow. If God really wants as many people to get into Heaven as possible then why doesn't He just list everything classified as a 'sin'? It would make things a heck of a lot less confusing.
The First 5 books of Moses is the Law or in other terms it is called the TORA(Torah)
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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God did not give the ten commandments at first, the commandments came after Moses came down from the mountain and saw the spectacle of idol worship and chaotic, convulsive display.

Moses destroyed the tablets and retreated back up to the mountain. God then wrote as before, yet did not write as He did before.

At the pleading of Moses to God, to not destroy the Hebrew nation.
God then gave them the laws which are a lesser blessing than the promises, which Christ gave. The law is for a stiffnecked weak generation. They were kept in the wilderness for 40 yrs. Until a new generation of faithful were able to enter the promised land.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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God did not give the ten commandments at first, the commandments came after Moses came down from the mountain and saw the spectacle of idol worship and chaotic, convulsive display.

Moses destroyed the tablets and retreated back up to the mountain. God then wrote as before, yet did not write as He did before.

At the pleading of Moses to God, to not destroy the Hebrew nation.
God then gave them the laws which are a lesser blessing than the promises, which Christ gave. The law is for a stiffnecked weak generation. They were kept in the wilderness for 40 yrs. Until a new generation of faithful were able to enter the promised land.

godspeed,

freedom
Please explain "stiffnecked weak generation" ? I am interested on the meaning.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Please explain "stiffnecked weak generation" ? I am interested on the meaning.
Stiffnecked in that they would complain and show lack of faith, impatience and stubborness to Gods ways.

Weak in spiritual terms, not seeking God directly but through the habit of the Egyptians through symbols and rituals.

They are Moses' terms, at least in the KJV.

godspeed,

freedom
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