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Originally Posted by auralmack
If man had walked in God's ways, Abel would have never killed a lamb: "And God said: Behold, I have given you every green herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is a fruit of the tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food."
Who told Abel to kill a lamb and eat it?
When did God ask Adam or Eve to sacrifice anything whatsoever?
Who told Abel or Cain to sacrifice anything whatsoever? Adam? Eve? That Lying Tongue?
Where did God tell Abel to go kill a lamb and it shall be for food?
Answer: Genesis 9:1-3 God didn't tell Abel, God told Noah and his sons; how many generations later? After the linage of both Abel and Cain was dead and gone...long after the line of Seth and Enos which was, "when men began to call upon the name of the Lord," unto Noah?
Abel and Cain = the beginnings of the traditions of men. And Abel was sacrificing lambs to fill his hungry belly; and God had respect for that. God did not require that, nor did he say it was better for you. And man's dominion became the fear and the dread of all the creatures upon the earth, which made your gods of bloody sacrifice very happy? and kept your bellies very happy, which may be one and the same.
Obviously He did tell them that or they wouldn't have known what to do. Adam was the first High Priest of G-d, and he was instructed in Torah. Just because it wasn't yet set to pen, didn't mean it wasn't communicated. In the beginning was the word/Torah. Peace
is it possible that Abel was giving G-d his best lambs, and Cain was giving G-d the produce he 'felt like' ?
What Cain gave was representative of the work of his own hands (from the earth/flesh), which was under the curse put on Adam. What you see happening in Genesis is summed up this way later: faith (sacrifice of blood/spiritual realm) without works (the natural realm) is dead or death producing, and works without faith also warrants a death sentence. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remittance for sins. The flesh wars against the Spirit continually, the flesh continually tries to murder the Spirit of Christ (in us). Peace
What Cain gave was representative of the work of his own hands (from the earth/flesh), which was under the curse put on Adam. What you see happening in Genesis is summed up this way later: faith (sacrifice of blood/spiritual realm) without works (the natural realm) is dead or death producing, and works without faith also warrants a death sentence. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remittance for sins. The flesh wars against the Spirit continually, the flesh continually tries to murder the Spirit of Christ (in us). Peace
What seems more likely is that the passage was written by a bloodthirsty priest.
Just a very carnal and primitive mind, nate.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
Do you eat meat nate?
If you do then you are thirsty for blood.
You are bloodthirsty.
Our carnality is the major stumbling block to our spirituality, but that is why we must overcome and endure. The carnality has NOTHING to do with pleasing or displeasing God. It is simply carnality.
Just a very carnal and primitive mind, nate.
Our carnality is the major stumbling block to our spirituality, but that is why we must overcome and endure. The carnality has NOTHING to do with pleasing or displeasing God. It is simply carnality.
Just a very carnal and primitive mind, nate.
Our carnality is the major stumbling block to our spirituality, but that is why we must overcome and endure. The carnality has NOTHING to do with pleasing or displeasing God. It is simply carnality.
so then are you saying that eating meat is primitive and is a stumbling block to spirituality?
ALL of our carnal appetites are a stumbling block to our spirituality.
I don't agree.
My spirituality embraces feedback from my senses. I believe we are to celebrate our gifts while inhabiting a gift-giving/receiving body.
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