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Old 06-06-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Yeah, most Christians sort of ignore 2/3's of the bible, unless it is to rail against homosexuals and lesbians. Then they are all over endorsing that part.
That's because they haven't a clue what they are talking about because they haven't a clue what the law actually teaches. Every time a Christian opens his mouth about a person who is sexually immoral, they judge themselves each and every time.


It is for this reason that it needs to be done, that Christians need to open their mouths to judge, it is needed for them to judge themselves.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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Yeah, most Christians sort of ignore 2/3's of the bible, unless it is to rail against homosexuals and lesbians. Then they are all over endorsing that part.
What does the bible say about lesbians?
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Old 06-06-2017, 11:08 PM
 
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Wasn't god making appearances back in the day?
He was quite chatty too, right? Why didn't god enlighten these ignorant ancestors?
Lay some special pleading on us.
NO need for special pleading. God has been inspiring humans since the beginning. What presented problems was our ignorance and inability to interpret the inspirations. Evolution is real. We had to evolve the capability to reason and learn about reality and we had to evolve the self-control necessary to subdue our baser urges. Prior to Jesus, we did not have those abilities. That was the point of the schoolmaster stage (OT) of our physical and spiritual evolution using the fear of God to evolve our species self-control. By the time of Christ, the "fields were ripe for the harvest" and Jesus was the one human evolved enough to perfectly embody the Holy Spirit of God in His human consciousness.
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If I told you, you wouldn't understand. And if you wouldn't understand...
how would people back then get it do you suppose?
I love when Jesus said...picture the scene...with all his disciples that had been sitting around campfires
being told amazing things privately and 3 seeing him turn into pure light...he still said to them
at supper...There are many things I want to tell you but you cannot grasp them now. John 16And they were hundreds of years after the Old Testament writers...their little pea brains just didn't get
certain things.
(Remember they were similar to tribes throwing virgins into volcanoes, still...)
I wonder what Mystic will say, indeed.
Amen, Miss H. It IS experiential and it takes a deep understanding of what unconditional love and acceptance are all about - something the mainstream religions seem unable to comprehend.
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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NO need for special pleading. God has been inspiring humans since the beginning. What presented problems was our ignorance and inability to interpret the inspirations. Evolution is real. We had to evolve the capability to reason and learn about reality and we had to evolve the self-control necessary to subdue our baser urges. Prior to Jesus, we did not have those abilities. That was the point of the schoolmaster stage (OT) of our physical and spiritual evolution using the fear of God to evolve our species self-control. By the time of Christ, the "fields were ripe for the harvest" and Jesus was the one human evolved enough to perfectly embody the Holy Spirit of God in His human consciousness.
Amen, Miss H. It IS experiential and it takes a deep understanding of what unconditional love and acceptance are all about - something the mainstream religions seem unable to comprehend.

And whose fault is that?

Not the creator omnigod, right?
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:59 AM
 
Location: USA
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And whose fault is that?

Not the creator omnigod, right?
Fault? Do you assign blame when someone is too young, too inexperienced or not yet educated enough to understand something?
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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And whose fault is that?

Not the creator omnigod, right?
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Fault? Do you assign blame when someone is too young, too inexperienced or not yet educated enough to understand something?
I'm not the omnicreatorgod.

It should know how to create.
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: USA
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I'm not the omnicreatorgod.

It should know how to create.
I'm fairly certain that Mystic doesn't claim that such a god exists.
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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And whose fault is that?
Not the creator omnigod, right?
Sarcasm and blame and eyerolling are uncool.
It has no place in debate or discussion or in good and fruitful communication.
I shows the person to be angry and many other things I will leave out here.

That goes for Christians doing it to atheists, also.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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I'm fairly certain that Mystic doesn't claim that such a god exists.
The Omni's are human creations defining what our God MUST be in order to qualify as our God. They are the result of human vanity and hubris.
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