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Old 07-23-2017, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I am quite willing to own up to that rebuke, Katz. Clearly, my communications skills, honed over decades as a Professor, equally seem to be inadequate for this forum. Audience composition clearly matters.
I am not questioning your ability to communicate your thoughts and ideas exactly as you want to, Mystic. All I know is how I feel after reading one of your posts that is directed to me. Of course, this is not the case when we agree on something, but when we disagree, that's another matter.

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Old 07-23-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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I am quite willing to own up to that rebuke, Katz. Clearly, my communications skills, honed over decades as a Professor, equally seem to be inadequate for this forum. Audience composition clearly matters.


Still making excuses.
Still blaming others.
Still not taking responsibility for your own thought speech action and feelings.

It's not about others.

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Old 07-23-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Still making excuses.
Still blaming others.
Still not taking responsibility for your own thought speech action and feelings.

It's not about others.
It's about you.
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Old 07-23-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: USA
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This is the second video of this guy that I've posted today. I'm not plugging him, it just seems to fit...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mju_gW3c8
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Old 07-23-2017, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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This is the second video of this guy that I've posted today. I'm not plugging him, it just seems to fit...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mju_gW3c8
Hilarious!

And don't we all know someone just like him....
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Old 07-23-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Self-determining what is truth is even more counter-productive; to you. Peace
"By their fruit you will know them."
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Old 07-23-2017, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The truth that is evident is a blatant ugly loathing and disregard for G*d's handiwork. His insults are against G*d and he is held 100% accountable for them.

To hide behind blaming others and calling it "truth" is a sham and utterly transparent to all on this board. There is nothing holy about it at all. Just ugly bitter darkness on display for all to see. How G*d must be weeping that His efforts and attempts to instill respect and kindness are wasted and discarded.

Regarding the topic of this thread, another element of organized religion is a focus on self improvement. Those who are anti religion often have an utter aversion to self improvement whether that is counseling therapy 12 step work or the guidelines and rules that a religion puts forth for its members.

The leadership and structure of religion recognizes that there are many things that distance us from G*d and the rules and guidelines are put in place to minimize and reduce that which comes between a person and G*d.

For a person to say they don't need rules is often from a place of unwillingness to be held accountable for self improvement.

Most important though and most prevalent seen on these boards is an unwillingness to take on the yoke of God. When a person is anti religion very often they are not only saying no one is going to tell me what to do, but they also include G*d in rhat as well, they are not going to do what G*d asks of them either.
See what I mean about "defensive" rather than analytical?
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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I am quite willing to own up to that rebuke, Katz. Clearly, my communications skills, honed over decades as a Professor, equally seem to be inadequate for this forum. Audience composition clearly matters.
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They are insults.
And what you are unwilling to do out of pride and superiority is to take responsibility for your behavior and how you treat others.
See above.
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There is a real darkness to your posts Mystic. You boast about your credentials but stoop to the most crude demeaning insults including potty talk. Is that where your infallible guide of holiness leads you, to potty talk?
You routinely criticize religious organizations calling yourself anti authoritarian and one aspect of that is very much your refusal of having any sort of rules or accountability. That is one thing organized religion attempts to do: have leaders who model outstanding character traits; and have guidelines or rules that people are asked to adhere to.
My observation is you routinely and wholeheartedly abhor and reject both.
The ONLY guideline and rules I feel obliged to follow were the ones Jesus repeatedly told His followers to use: Love God AND each other every day and repent when we don't. I see no value whatsoever in giving mere human beings "supernaturally" endowed authority over anything. If nothing else, the rampant pedophilia within those organizations with ORDAINED leaders should be enough to question the practice. You can continue to invest mere human beings with such authority, but you will never convince me that it makes any sense whatsoever. BUT, none of that is in ANY WAY a personal insult to anyone. However, it is clear that in today's society, taking offense has become a widespread phenomenon.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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I am not questioning your ability to communicate your thoughts and ideas exactly as you want to, Mystic. All I know is how I feel after reading one of your posts that is directed to me. Of course, this is not the case when we agree on something, but when we disagree, that's another matter.
This may be the central problem for many in this forum, Katz. When I respond to one of your posts, I am responding to its CONTENT, NOT you. This is a discussion forum, NOT a chat room. Any comments I make about YOU could form the basis of an insult, but NOT my comments on the ideas and content of your post.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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Still making excuses.
Still blaming others.
Still not taking responsibility for your own thought speech action and feelings.
It's not about others.
::Sigh:: This is a discussion forum for ideas, NOT a chat room for personal attacks. Those of you who insist on taking offense at opinions of ideas that you do not like are responsible for your reactions. You are responsible for what you believe and accept. Personally attacking those who express those opinions you find offensive IS a problem, NOT the opposing opinions.
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