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Suppose, for example, that the only son of an exemplary Christian couple leaves the truth. Preferring "the temporary enjoyment of sin" to a personal relationship with Jehovah and with his godly parents, the young man is disfellowshipped. … the Bible says "to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator. … They also realise that the word "anyone" in this verse includes family members not living under their roof. … Our hearts go out to those parents. After all, their son had a choice, and he chose to pursue his unchristian lifestyle rather than to continue to enjoy close association with his parents and other fellow believers. The parents, on the other hand, had no say in the matter. … But what will those dear parents do? Will they obey Jehovah's clear direction? Or will they rationalize that they can have regular association with the disfellowshipped son and call it, "necessary family business"? In making their decision, they must not fail to consider how Jehovah feels about what they are doing. … Today, Jehovah does not immediately execute those who violate his laws. He lovingly gives them an opportunity to repent from their unrighteous works. How would Jehovah feel, though, if the parents of an unrepentant wrongdoer kept putting Him to the test by having unnecessary association with their disfellowshipped son or daughter?" Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.31, p.32
Absolutely disgusting, no doubt about that.
And lol at the poster talking about being welcomed back like the Prodigal Son.
JW's are obviously the most overt about it (shunning), but there are plenty of others that do it. (eg International Church of Christ etc).
Even some mainstream Christians have lost all their family, friends and support groups, once they have left their church.
This video (3.3 min) is from the 2015 Australian Royal Commission into how organizations deal with child sexual abuse. The Watchtower was case #54. Agents of the Watchtower are being questioned about shunning a sexual abuse victim whose abuser was deemed as innocent due to the fact that there weren't 2 witnesses to the attack and would choose to dissociate from the Watchtower. You can see that the shunning rules apply to more than just people who have committed serious sins from which they are unrepentant.
From the 2016 Remain Loyal to Jehovah convention. It's 9 minutes but at 2.45 you can see them target inactives (people who have left without being disfellowshipped or dissociated). It gives the example of a son shunning his mother who had left the organization. In all fairness to the Witnesses they don't use the term shun so asking them will result in a no answer. When my mom came to tell me she was cutting off all contact with me she balked when I asked if she intended to shun me. She stated it was "LOVING discipline from Jehovah". That's how they refer to this as loving discipline or a loving arrangement.
If you want to watch the whole video notice at the 5 minute mark where they tell of a young women who was shunned for 15 years. It states that the woman said she didn't care about what she was putting her parents through. From being on recovery boards and my own personal experience I can tell you that is not the case. we are very worried about our relatives still inside the organization and the emotional toll this is taking on them. It's probably the main reason we don't tell them that we know it's all a farce. If we did that would be apostasy and it would cause them to become afraid of us and be required to shun us.
This video (3.3 min) is from the 2015 Australian Royal Commission into how organizations deal with child sexual abuse. The Watchtower was case #54. Agents of the Watchtower are being questioned about shunning a sexual abuse victim whose abuser was deemed as innocent due to the fact that there weren't 2 witnesses to the attack and would choose to dissociate from the Watchtower. You can see that the shunning rules apply to more than just people who have committed serious sins from which they are unrepentant.
I noticed snips in this video. I've watched the entire testimony during the investigation and don't believe that the edits change what was said. I'm assuming they were made to condense it into a short enough video people would watch. If anyone would like to fact check that the entire proceedings are available online.
From the 2016 Remain Loyal to Jehovah convention. It's 9 minutes but at 2.45 you can see them target inactives (people who have left without being disfellowshipped or dissociated). It gives the example of a son shunning his mother who had left the organization. In all fairness to the Witnesses they don't use the term shun so asking them will result in a no answer. When my mom came to tell me she was cutting off all contact with me she balked when I asked if she intended to shun me. She stated it was "LOVING discipline from Jehovah". That's how they refer to this as loving discipline or a loving arrangement.
If you want to watch the whole video notice at the 5 minute mark where they tell of a young women who was shunned for 15 years. It states that the woman said she didn't care about what she was putting her parents through. From being on recovery boards and my own personal experience I can tell you that is not the case. we are very worried about our relatives still inside the organization and the emotional toll this is taking on them. It's probably the main reason we don't tell them that we know it's all a farce. If we did that would be apostasy and it would cause them to become afraid of us and be required to shun us.
every time this gets bumped, and I read the title, it makes me ill. The day is coming and it will be genocide. Well, on the east coast anyway. I just don't know what side to be on. I guess the side that the leader doesn't paste his face all over the place and make us pledge to him.
people that "get it" would never have people pledge them.
From the 2016 Remain Loyal to Jehovah convention. It's 9 minutes but at 2.45 you can see them target inactives (people who have left without being disfellowshipped or dissociated). It gives the example of a son shunning his mother who had left the organization. In all fairness to the Witnesses they don't use the term shun so asking them will result in a no answer. When my mom came to tell me she was cutting off all contact with me she balked when I asked if she intended to shun me. She stated it was "LOVING discipline from Jehovah". That's how they refer to this as loving discipline or a loving arrangement.
If you want to watch the whole video notice at the 5 minute mark where they tell of a young women who was shunned for 15 years. It states that the woman said she didn't care about what she was putting her parents through. From being on recovery boards and my own personal experience I can tell you that is not the case. we are very worried about our relatives still inside the organization and the emotional toll this is taking on them. It's probably the main reason we don't tell them that we know it's all a farce. If we did that would be apostasy and it would cause them to become afraid of us and be required to shun us.
Well that would be "an unrepentant wrongdoer" - which this guy keeps repeating in the video.
But thanks for the video, just shows what type of organization this is, esp when they erupted into applause about this girl being shunned.
Obviously they are an exclusivist group. Jehovah's children etc. But no different to many low church evangelicals when they say "God knows his sheep" - which refers to themselves only.
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