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Old 07-23-2020, 05:48 PM
 
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this is only one of the many proofs that are in this thread that proves the Holy Quran is from Allah the only god
and to prove that Muhammed is his final messenger.

the Holy Quran contains knowledge that could not be mentioned by any human being at that time
or at the area of the messenger of Allah Muhammed (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
so Allah spoke to man and never will again.

why? did it die?
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Old 07-23-2020, 07:52 PM
 
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this is only one of the many proofs that are in this thread that proves the Holy Quran is from Allah the only god
and to prove that Muhammed is his final messenger.

the Holy Quran contains knowledge that could not be mentioned by any human being at that time
or at the area of the messenger of Allah Muhammed (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
Thank you for explaining. But do you really find it surprising (or revealing of divine messaging) that humans would know that zebras live elsewhere on the same continent, or that prey animals run away from their natural predator? Early humans had been observing that for a couple million years, by the time the Quran was written.
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Old 07-23-2020, 09:17 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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this is only one of the many proofs that are in this thread that proves the Holy Quran is from Allah the only god
and to prove that Muhammed is his final messenger.

the Holy Quran contains knowledge that could not be mentioned by any human being at that time
or at the area of the messenger of Allah Muhammed (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)
We are aware that this was your aim and the purpose of the thread. But the fact is that you haven't really made a convincing case for any of these Evidences, and in some cases they have collapsed so badly that any open -minded, rational and evidence -following person would have seen that their Holy Book and religion had to be false.

You can't do that as you have Faith. I won't go into the ramifications of that, but we know what it is and how it works. So you aren't listening - no more than the Christian Faithful do. (there may be some who are listening and wondering). But you should at least have seen by now that you have no case. You have done the best you could and I doubt that many Muslims could have done better, but your case has failed utterly and you are really wasting your time here. Except as a possible good, Bad Example of Faith -based denial.
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Old 07-23-2020, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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A very sad thread. Rivaled only by anything posted by a JW.
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Old 07-23-2020, 09:30 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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A very sad thread. Rivaled only by anything posted by a JW.
The terrifying fact is that Islamic apologetics and Faith seems even worse that politicised Christian Fundamentalism, and has more of a potential threat.

I gotta dream today..but it is fading and I see less and less hope of a secularist global society. Instead I see a global religious war coming. I hope that's no more than a bad nightmare.
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Old 07-24-2020, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Thank you for explaining. But do you really find it surprising (or revealing of divine messaging) that humans would know that zebras live elsewhere on the same continent, or that prey animals run away from their natural predator? Early humans had been observing that for a couple million years, by the time the Quran was written.
According to post 988, they were not even Zebras.

But Zebras were known throughout the Roman empire, so it is not a miracle that the later Muslims could have known about Zebras.
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Old 07-24-2020, 02:40 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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According to post 988, they were not even Zebras.

But Zebras were known throughout the Roman empire, so it is not a miracle that the later Muslims could have known about Zebras.
Yes. Roman agents combed Aftica for exotic animals to display in their arenas. Lions we all know about (not Tigers, so far as we know, but they Could have got a few if they'd heard of them. Rome had trade links with India from the early Imperium) but any unusual or exotic animals were transported to Rome for the circuses.

Even if, as you say, 'zebras' is right, rather than donkeys.
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Old 07-24-2020, 01:47 PM
 
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so Allah spoke to man and never will again.

why?
Allah sent One hundred and twenty four thousand Prophets
and Three hundred and thirteen, a good number messengers
Adam was the first one and Muhammed is the final one
and the message was completed and The Holy Quran contains every thing regarding living in this planet and it is the eternal miracle
that is why.
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Old 07-24-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Allah sent One hundred and twenty four thousand Prophets
and Three hundred and thirteen, a good number messengers
Adam was the first one and Muhammed is the final one
and the message was completed and The Holy Quran contains every thing regarding living in this planet and it is the eternal miracle
that is why.
Prove it.
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Old 07-24-2020, 02:12 PM
 
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Thank you for explaining. But do you really find it surprising (or revealing of divine messaging) that humans would know that zebras live elsewhere on the same continent, or that prey animals run away from their natural predator? Early humans had been observing that for a couple million years, by the time the Quran was written.

I do not find it surprising if this is the only knowledge in the Quran
but there are many and this can be considered supportive for them
for example there are knowledge for
1- Stages of development of the fetus in the womb
2- waves like mountain
3- wave enshrouded them like awningses
4- whirlwind, with fire
5- knocking piercing Star
and more and more and they are all mentioned within the pages of this thread
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