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Because that's how I was raised. Because my parents actually showed me enough love when I was a kid.
I think people are inherently caring (both of what other people think and in the sense of generosity, honor, etc), it's the parents that either maintain or lessen that.
That certainly is a big factor in our development. Our parents set an example and we observe and duplicate it.
So why did the Belief example not take? But the honor and love one did?
We weeded out what we found to be false or what we deemed not needed. Some things we took with us, some not. It's our freedom of choice at work, really.
That certainly is a big factor in our development. Our parents set an example and we observe and duplicate it.
So why did the Belief example not take? But the honor and love one did?
godspeed,
freedom
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Because the beliefs are fantastical.
Pretty much. Because my parents are tangible.
However religions stemming from abraham are written by people who claim to have seen god, something to that effect, or are just talking out of their ass (see genesis).
Christianity for example is based off of some books that were written more than a lifetime after jesus died. Also, any opposing books were destroyed or hidden, thus creating the church of peter the patriarch as opposed to the other apostles.
From that understanding, I came to realize that it's rediculous to even believe in one deity and not another since there is no tangible evidence to prove that Allah, Yahweh, or God is more probable than the FSM. Thus, I was agnostic.
And from that somehow I guess I just became atheist. I saw no reason for there even to exist any deity. I find it easier to believe in an infinite and/or spontaneous universe than any infinite being.
I can't rule out the existance of a deity because absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but the probability is low enough that it's very unlikely.
Or how Democritus coined the term átomos (Greekἄτομος), which meant "uncuttable" or "the smallest indivisible particle of matter"
and this was accepted as reality too
Just because you believe it, doesn't mean it's real. See my previous answer if you are confused by this.
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What if our understanding of the universe continues evolving until science and religion converge?
Ancient India reached that stage, why wouldn't we reach it again?
Science and religion will not "converge" because if something within religion can be proven scientifically, it is science, and not religion. Look up "fact" and look up "faith" and there is your difference.
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Some of it is fantasy...religious beliefs for example.
Prove to me that I do not exist.
Like every human being you've had dreams when you sleep right? when you are dreaming you might think that you are awake and what is happening to you is real until you wake up and discover the truth.
In order to prove you that you are just the dream of God you would need to follow a scientific process which involves discipline, it is not a cakewalk to reach that state, but spiritual disciplines will yield results that will lead you through this process.
Science isn't fast either, it took many years of discipline and experiments to reach the understandment of the world we have.
[quote]Reality does not change. Only our perception and knowledge of it.
This is very true, and we know that our senses limit this perception and knowledge right? we couldn't see virii with our eyes or electromagnetic vibrations, until we developed microscopes and devices such as radar, infrared scanners, etc to harness and understand those vibrations.
So what if we still haven't developed a way to see God? what if he is there but we don't have the technology? or we don't know how to use it?
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Just because you believe it, doesn't mean it's real. See my previous answer if you are confused by this.
I guess the same with disbelief, not just because you don't believe it doesn't mean is not real
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Science and religion will not "converge" because if something within religion can be proven scientifically, it is science, and not religion. Look up "fact" and look up "faith" and there is your difference.
I don't believe in blind faith, I only believe in things that can be proven scientifically, that's why Yoga is considered a sacred science, because it can give you evidence of God's existence, it's a failure proof method, if you follow it you'll reach there eventually, just like the scientific method.
Yogic methods of spiritual development awaken the "equipment" within you that will let you "see" God
But in order to avoid fanatism, let's open the door to other thoughts, what would be your thoughts of a direct experience of God's pressence, what would be the scientifical explanation to those experiences in meditation?
[quote=Marodi;3189004]Pretty much. Because my parents are tangible.
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However religions stemming from abraham are written by people who claim to have seen god, something to that effect, or are just talking out of their ass (see genesis).
Okay... don't believe that the books of Prophets are true and your parents do.
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Christianity for example is based off of some books that were written more than a lifetime after jesus died. Also, any opposing books were destroyed or hidden, thus creating the church of peter the patriarch as opposed to the other apostles.
Some, some were written before Christ and some after, and some during.
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From that understanding, I came to realize that it's rediculous to even believe in one deity and not another since there is no tangible evidence to prove that Allah, Yahweh, or God is more probable than the FSM. Thus, I was agnostic.
If you were to throw out all the knowledge of books and man's part in producing religion, is there nothing inside that leads you to contemplating and proving the unseen over the seen or provable?
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And from that somehow I guess I just became atheist. I saw no reason for there even to exist any deity. I find it easier to believe in an infinite and/or spontaneous universe than any infinite being.
Why not share this with your loved ones, so that they may come to the same conclusion?
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I can't rule out the existance of a deity because absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but the probability is low enough that it's very unlikely.
True it would be just as difficult to prove that God does not exist as it is to prove He does to someone else.
To me God's system is set up to have each person find, not someone find for another, or prove to another.
If i use it in my house for a couple of days, my kids will pick up on it and we can start a new word trend in our town....
Have you ever done that, and see how long it takes to come back to you?
We weeded out what we found to be false or what we deemed not needed. Some things we took with us, some not. It's our freedom of choice at work, really.
Absolutely,
Please expand on that if you will,
What did you weed out.
What did you hold to.
godspeed,
freedom
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