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Finding chariot wheels in the Red Sea does not prove the parting of it. That's like saying the Grand Canyon was formed by the global flood just because there is a Grand Canyon and you believe the flood happened. There is no evidence liking those wheels to the story in the Bible. You're doing what we like to call "filling in the gaps" because it's convenient for your argument.
Its not my argument, nor do i think it proves anything other than what it is.
I was merely giving a google suggestion.
Yeah 2500 years ago God just talks about these specifics events that are happening to today. But has no involvment... 'For I will take you (the Jews) out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land" (Ezekiel 36:24) God:
1) takes 2) gathers 3) brings back THE JEWS... but according to you has no involvment.
As for the Red Sea Crossing... Red Sea Crossing
It's a shame God hadn't been more specific with his predictions, maybe then people could actually take them seriously.
Somehow i get the feeling you are no expert on Prophetic happenings. Until one has studied the history of the prophecies and the events that correspond with them, you can't really mock them with any credibility.
It seems to be enough to convince billions of people over the milleniums to believe that there is more to all this, than just stories told around the campfire. I know of no other subject that has convinced so many over thousands of years.
God desires people to seek Him. He could have given all the evidence in the world, but would people even believe Him? God DID walk on the earth... yet only a fragment of the world trully believe.
A personal attack on Ron Wyatt does not disprove the Red Sea Crossing underwater grave.
Somehow i get the feeling you are no expert on Prophetic happenings. Until one has studied the history of the prophecies and the events that correspond with them, you can't really mock them with any credibility.
It seems to be enough to convince billions of people over the milleniums to believe that there is more to all this, than just stories told around the campfire. I know of no other subject that has convinced so many over thousands of years.
You have a feeling? People believe things? Evidence be damned, you must be right!
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A personal attack on Ron Wyatt does not disprove the Red Sea Crossing underwater grave.
Personal attack? Ron Wyatt is a fraud and a liar, everyone but fundies realizes this. If the Red Sea were truly parted by an act of God, and we found evidence of this, news would be everywhere, CNN, BBC, EVERYWHERE, not just poorly designed amateur websites.
I see this has ended up like most threads about atheism: people who don't know anything about it pushing their religious beliefs on we poor stupid atheists.
Guess what, we don't believe in god, any god. That's all there is to it.
We don't care if your god is bigger or better, we simply don't believe in your god at all.
Nothing you say is going to change our minds.
We just don't care.
I guess my question is, why do you insist on bringing your xian bible into an atheist discussion? How does your religious viewpoint "uncover" atheism?
Is this simply another platform to push your religious beliefs on the poor & misguided non-believers? This behavior is one of the reasons we want nothing to do with your delusions.
BTW, Pacific Rim Secret Squirrels are inviting all of you to a Spring Bash. You know how to get in touch with our chapter.
Guaranteed sacrifices and dancing.
Bring a friend.
People use to say that it is impossible for the Hebrews to cross the Red Sea. Now YOU can go and see chariots, chariot wheels, human and animal remains, and spears spread across the Red Sea for miles.
They did not cross the Red Sea. The author of Exodus says that the Israelites were camping by the sea at a place called Baalzephon. What Israelites had presumably crossed was the Sea of Reeds; but it definitely was not the Red Sea.
The Israelites' escape route runs along the area that is now called the Suez Canal. They merely crossed the isthmus that later became the canal. The Israelites, in fact never reached the Red Sea because it is much farther, all the way down below the Sinai Peninsula.
The Sea of Reeds is affected by tidal influences, as it is an arm of the Med. Tide goes out, Moses takes the Israelites across, tide comes back in, drowns the Egyptians who attempted to follow. No mystery or miracle there.
I see this has ended up like most threads about atheism: people who don't know anything about it pushing their religious beliefs on we poor stupid atheists.
Guess what, we don't believe in god, any god. That's all there is to it.
We don't care if your god is bigger or better, we simply don't believe in your god at all.
Nothing you say is going to change our minds.
We just don't care.
I guess my question is, why do you insist on bringing your xian bible into an atheist discussion? How does your religious viewpoint "uncover" atheism?
Is this simply another platform to push your religious beliefs on the poor & misguided non-believers? This behavior is one of the reasons we want nothing to do with your delusions.
BTW, Pacific Rim Secret Squirrels are inviting all of you to a Spring Bash. You know how to get in touch with our chapter.
Guaranteed sacrifices and dancing.
Bring a friend.
Its not about secret squirrels either, but so far no one has rebuked multiple posts, 2 to 3 pages of them.
This is a Freedom Thread, come one, come all. All opinions and thoughts are welcome and appreciated. Even secret squirrels.
but seriously now the Red Sea crossing was probably just a messed up type of historical fact, they crossed an arm of the Mediterranean, just like one can walk out to Mont St. Michel in France when the tide's out, same thing happened there. No miracles.
I've always heard that story about the Red Sea crossing in gradeschool and later in highschool was told that the location was off a bit and it may not have been the Red Sea they crossed. So even back in the 70's, everyone around me started to question parts of the bible more than before.
It's all in the individual interpretation you may say but there should be no room for error in something like the bible. There should not be all these interpretations, it should be one way and that's it. That's the first thing that sways people into not believing. The story keeps changing and then we're told it's every person for themselves, whatever you wish to believe. Then it's the devil again...making us blind and stupid. At some point I had to set the devil theory aside and question if I could keep believing this bible and the truth is that I have to believe what makes sense to me and that is not the bible.
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