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Old 04-01-2008, 09:15 PM
 
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I see where you are coming from but why would I want a thorough understanding of something that I just find absurd? As my previous statement, I would think that Russell's teapot is totally made up, but yet I study all about teapots to get a better understanding of something that I will never believe in. Debating about how it didn't get up there, how it couldn't be made in China, how it doesn't have little teacups orbiting around it etc.
The majority of Americans believe in a God, not a celestial teapot. The majority of Americans believe that I am untrustworthy because I do not believe in a God, not because I do not believe in a celestial teapot.

The belief in a God has a profound effect on my life. I'd have to be stupid to ignore it.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:05 PM
 
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Exactly, God is available to all, and finding him should be easy not hard.

People want results and proof of God existence, and people are tired of blind belief, or believing without feeling they are getting somewhere, Yoga is a path that offers you exactly that.

You can doubt and it's alright if that doubt makes you discern from truth to non truth.

You can question and it's alright if those questionings make you understand and realize the infinite truths contained in the scriptures

You can ask and you will receive, you just have to keep persistent and constant on your sadhana and everything will just come to you

You have a guru yes and his teachings will help you, but you can question thsoe teachings, and you don't need to go to a temple or donate your money to a temple because your body is your temple and that's the place where you should worship God, in the bottom of your heart.

but I don't try to force my beliefs on no one, I just like to share them and if possible have an interesting, constructive, respectful and enlightening dialogue with my fellow forum users, that's all
Do your beliefs allow you to believe that you live by love? and that one important act of love is to attempt to spare someone's soul from the eternal fires of hell? This is no joke, we Christians don't force our beliefs on anyone...the fact is this: OUR MESSAGE IS URGENT. Life is short, eternity is forever. Not only did Jesus give us the opportunity to have eternal life, but he offers all truth in life and life in it's fullness.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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I wouldn't want eternal life. Honestly. One lifetime is enough, if you can't get it right the first time, so be it. All you can do is try your best anyway. Life'll never be perfect no matter how many years you drag yourself around the earth. Why would you want to live forever? To do what? It could get very boring.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:46 AM
 
Location: South Central PA
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I wouldn't want eternal life. Honestly. One lifetime is enough, if you can't get it right the first time, so be it. All you can do is try your best anyway. Life'll never be perfect no matter how many years you drag yourself around the earth. Why would you want to live forever? To do what? It could get very boring.
I wouldnt mind living on a cloud. you have no idea how crushed I was when I learned fog was a cloud and that clouds cant support weight.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Exactly, God is available to all, and finding him should be easy not hard.

People want results and proof of God existence, and people are tired of blind belief, or believing without feeling they are getting somewhere, Yoga is a path that offers you exactly that.

You can doubt and it's alright if that doubt makes you discern from truth to non truth.

You can question and it's alright if those questionings make you understand and realize the infinite truths contained in the scriptures

You can ask and you will receive, you just have to keep persistent and constant on your sadhana and everything will just come to you

You have a guru yes and his teachings will help you, but you can question thsoe teachings, and you don't need to go to a temple or donate your money to a temple because your body is your temple and that's the place where you should worship God, in the bottom of your heart.

but I don't try to force my beliefs on no one, I just like to share them and if possible have an interesting, constructive, respectful and enlightening dialogue with my fellow forum users, that's all
I'm an atheist. Always have been. Just couldn't believe the Bible myths, even though I spent my youth regularly attending church and getting the usual pressure from family and friends.

I did not choose to not believe. I just found the story unbelievable. If there's a god who is so intently interested in gaining my belief, I'm certain that he'd know how to make that happen. And he'd do it universally. There wouldn't be such a profusion of faiths with different divine alliegances.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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The majority of Americans believe in a God, not a celestial teapot. The majority of Americans believe that I am untrustworthy because I do not believe in a God, not because I do not believe in a celestial teapot.
Why is it an a/a can use ridiculous analogies comparing God to a teapot, fsm, unicorns etc. but when the shoe is on the other foot, then it isn't acceptable? You are exactly right though, the rest of the world does not believe in a celestial teapot but non-believers hold religion in the same regards now don't they. So I am sorry, you just can't dismiss it because it doesn't fit your point at this time.

No offense but you feeling untrustworthy to the rest of the world isn't my problem. I could care less if a person believes or not, trusting someone or being friends with someone does not have anything to do with what they do or don't believe. I could be friends with a non-believer just as fast as someone of my own faith.

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The belief in a God has a profound effect on my life. I'd have to be stupid to ignore it.
I might have to print this out and hang it up on the board in my office here. An athiest saying that. Without pissing you off any further, there has to be something to God, because I don't think any other ridiculous analogies have near the profound effect on your life as God does.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:07 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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I'm an atheist. Always have been. Just couldn't believe the Bible myths, even though I spent my youth regularly attending church and getting the usual pressure from family and friends.

I did not choose to not believe. I just found the story unbelievable. If there's a god who is so intently interested in gaining my belief, I'm certain that he'd know how to make that happen. And he'd do it universally. There wouldn't be such a profusion of faiths with different divine alliegances.
Maybe there's a great profusion of gods, all focused on gaining your favor. But if you chose incorrectly, the biggest, baddest god will send you straight to hell. Well, right after you're dead, anyway.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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Now sorry, I can't believe there are gods vying for our attention.. That's not realistic is it? Not trying to make fun of what you say but seriously...Can you imagine Mohammed and all those godlike beings fighting over how many people they have on their side. Like sweeps on TV in the US...
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:19 AM
 
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Now sorry, I can't believe there are gods vying for our attention.. That's not realistic is it? Not trying to make fun of what you say but seriously...Can you imagine Mohammed and all those godlike beings fighting over how many people they have on their side. Like sweeps on TV in the US...
Mohammed isn't thought of as a god by anyone.....

At least I don't think he is....I could be wrong.
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Maybe there's a great profusion of gods, all focused on gaining your favor. But if you chose incorrectly, the biggest, baddest god will send you straight to hell. Well, right after you're dead, anyway.
We send ourselves to hell. God desires his children to be with Him.
If we choose hell, its on us.

godspeed,

freedom
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