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I believe repentance is necessary, in other words a 180 from sin; going in the opposite direction; turning from sin; call it what you will. I believe it is key to follow Jesus and obey His commands. When you are a true child of God, you have a desire to please your Father.
Do you believe we can grow beyond the need for repentance?
I believe repentance is necessary, in other words a 180 from sin; going in the opposite direction; turning from sin; call it what you will. I believe it is key to follow Jesus and obey His commands. When you are a true child of God, you have a desire to please your Father.
Like practicing tolerance and acceptance of all people?!
Of course this is a very particular interpretation of bible verse, there more then enough scholars who say none of these are correct interpretations.
Besides, every religion does the same thing...sorry it is just like the news paper horoscope, you can make it say what ever you want it to.
To put is simple, the bible does not impress me even the smallest bit.
When I was in my teens I discovered these prophecies, I'm now 57 years old, and I can tell you I was very impressed then, and I'm still impressed today. If you have read the Bible and it's prophecies and they do not impressed you. I would have to say your not a very deep thinking person. Most of the Scripture that deals with the return of the Jews in the last days does not require scholars to do your thinking for you. The text is so obvious even the simple minded could understand it.
All a matter of interpretation, for example the bible says the earth is flat. And that the sun orbits the earth and so on. But you certainly have ways of explaining those boo boos away.
Oh and if the bible is true, the you believe a god who command she bears to eat up kids and commands warriors to dash unborn babies against rocks.
Yep, what a guy
Oh one more thing, he told the people in that day he would return while they where still alive. But I am sure though that is what he said, you will have a way to explain that one away too.
The Bible does not say the earth is flat, nor does it say the sun orbits the earth. Care to give me the chapter and verse where that is stated? And remember this, when God returns to the earth to remove the church which will be in a quick moment of time, the Bible clearly tells us that it will be both night and day. If the Bible taught a flat earth, that would be impossible.
Also, Jesus did say some would not taste of death until they see the Son of man coming in the clouds of Heaven with power and great glory. That was fullfilled in a vision, and I believe it was the very next morning after Jesus made that statement, which you forgot to mention. It's called the Transfiguration.
You really have a way of pulling verses out of context, and pushing non existant beliefs about the Scriptures. Care to prove me wrong? Show us your Scriptrual evidence.
From Curbing Atheism (http://paleoconservatist.blogspot.com/2008/03/curbing-atheism.html - broken link):
.."faith is not infantile. As anyone familiar with antireligious polemics knows, a recurring atheist criticism of religious belief is that it is infantile. They equate faith in a Creator God with the tooth fairy. Yet their analogy is obviously flawed. How many people do you know who began to believe in the tooth fairy in adulthood and found that consoling in old age? I know of none. But I do know of many that began to believe in God at college. Those who use this infantile argument have to explain why so many people discover God later in life and certainly do not regard this as representing any kind of regression, perversion or degeneration."
On the other hand, we find many atheists who have acted in an infantile manner allowing unaddressed resentments to direct them into an atheistic posture.
Other atheists, such as Harvard University's Stephen Gould, were clear that unless half his scientific colleagues were total fools, a presumption he dismissed as nonsense, that the natural sciences including evolutionary theory were consistant with both atheism and conventional religious belief and today we see organizations of bright scientists working together in the development of progressive creation models that compete directly with atheistic naturalist ones. We also see religious organizations like the Catholic Church ascribing to theistic evolution. All of this drives militant atheists somewhat batty as orthodox atheists preach that their worldview is the only right one and religiously adhere to an idea that science proves this to be true. Their unbending faith does not permit them to operate outside the "non-God" box. In this way, there faith there is nothing but materialism is as inflexible as a young earth creationist's faith the world was created in six 24 hour solar "days". Just as the young earth creationists have misconstrued meaning used by the ancient Hebrew writer so atheists have misconstrued a complex, multilayered reality in their quest to prove there is no God.
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge
Atheists can't take God's word for it, it's like asking adults to take the tooth fairy's word that she exists.
Yet the CHURCH believed and even insisted everyone else believes, that the earth was flt until science proved them wrong.
Now really science proved itself wrong. All the leading "scientists" said that the earth was flat and that is what everyone went along with. So they were wrong.
Man is wrong on many things. What does man do with the wrong when discovered is the important factor.
Science and religion have become very rigid, walls to truth have been built throughout our cumbersome history. What will it take to flow into wisdom, and let the old dead ideas lie?
Believers must live up to the challenge of living their belief.
Non believers must reach the end of their unbelief.
godspeed,
freedom
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