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Did any one go to one of the screenings of this film? The blog world (at least the evolution vs ID part) is going crazy over this film, and not for good reasons. From what I've seen, it seems like most people hate it. Not only is Ben Stein obnoxious (I just realized that he's the guy from those annoying "dry eye? get clear eye!" or whatever commercials), but the entire movie leads to the conclusion that evolution leads to atheism which leads to Nazism which leads to the freaking Holocaust.
Did any one go to one of the screenings of this film? The blog world (at least the evolution vs ID part) is going crazy over this film, and not for good reasons. From what I've seen, it seems like most people hate it. Not only is Ben Stein obnoxious (I just realized that he's the guy from those annoying "dry eye? get clear eye!" or whatever commercials), but the entire movie leads to the conclusion that evolution leads to atheism which leads to Nazism which leads to the freaking Holocaust.
Hmmmm.... I'd say I'm shocked but I think I mentioned I had a feeling that there would be great mention of Darwin=Racist therefore Evolution=Genocide. I would think... and this is just me... that if there were scientific merit behind ID/Creationism then they would make a documentary showing all of the advancements in the science of it without having to try and exploit the theory of evolution as one that promotes neo-Nazi mindsets. That seems like the most practical approach to me. I wonder why it wasn't done that way??? Perhaps because there is no scientific merit behind it to begin with.
Interesting review mams1559, i hope our local theater gets it.
That review is written by and for Christians - hardly interesting to other folks, I think.
Why do they need to keep saying that the movie "proves" that ID is not a political movement? Religious zealots already "know" that, right?
Now ID folks want to paint me as un-American if I don't agree that ID should be taught as science. Hah! This review itself is a piece of political rhetoric.
That review is written by and for Christians - hardly interesting to other folks, I think.
Why do they need to keep saying that the movie "proves" that ID is not a political movement? Religious zealots already "know" that, right?
Now ID folks want to paint me as un-American if I don't agree that ID should be taught as science. Hah! This review itself is a piece of political rhetoric.
Did you read the footnotes? One very basically describes that ID is not biblical creationism. One basically describes that the reviewing orgainzation (AiG) does not want to stop teaching evolution and does not want ID taught in schools. I for one certainly do not want ID or creationism taught in public schools.
I think the only thing un-American being painted is the way those who are not 100% behind Darwinian evolution are punished for their own critical thinking especially when it contradicts evolution.
Did you read the footnotes? One very basically describes that ID is not biblical creationism. One basically describes that the reviewing orgainzation (AiG) does not want to stop teaching evolution and does not want ID taught in schools. I for one certainly do not want ID or creationism taught in public schools.
I didn't read the footnotes. If ID promoters don't want it taught in public school, then I have no beef. I do realize that ID is not biblical Creationism, but its just a skip away.
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I think the only thing un-American being painted is the way those who are not 100% behind Darwinian evolution are punished for their own critical thinking especially when it contradicts evolution.
OK - interesting point. I will need to see the movie to be able to speak about this issue. It's just difficult for me to get past the fact that many people who DO want ID to be taught in schools will use stuff like this as ammunition. I've got nothing against exploring this idea - as long as ID and Creationism are kept out of public schools. And I really don't care much about Darwin. He's a dead author, not the religious figure that ID-promoting Christians make him out to be.
That review is written by and for Christians - hardly interesting to other folks, I think.
Why do they need to keep saying that the movie "proves" that ID is not a political movement? Religious zealots already "know" that, right?
Now ID folks want to paint me as un-American if I don't agree that ID should be taught as science. Hah! This review itself is a piece of political rhetoric.
Do you see the bigotry in your statement, do you think that Christians are incapable of reason?
Don't you see the point being made? A supposedly open minded scientific body, is biased to the POSSIBILITY of Creation by design....
Why the Fear, what is it to them if one chooses to spend time exploring and seeking answers. THis is surely censorism at its worst.
Do you see the bigotry in your statement, do you think that Christians are incapable of reason?
The answer to both is: Absolutely not.
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Don't you see the point being made? A supposedly open minded scientific body, is biased to the POSSIBILITY of Creation by design....
Why the Fear, what is it to them if one chooses to spend time exploring and seeking answers. THis is surely censorism at its worst.
I see the point. I have already learned that I do not believe in Christianity or any other religion. Keep coming up with theories about how a creator God operates and I will continue to reject them as unsubstancial and irrelevant. No censorship - just a total philosophical rejection of ideas that I believe to be false and wrong.
I see the point. I have already learned that I do not believe in Christianity or any other religion. Keep coming up with theories about how a creator God operates and I will continue to reject them as unsubstancial and irrelevant. No censorship - just a total philosophical rejection of ideas that I believe to be false and wrong.
So you have exausted every possibility?
godspeed,
freedom
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