Please, for your own comfort, don't read this thread (Jesus, education, create)

[b. frank]

Originally Posted by freedom

So you have exausted every possibility?

Probably not every possibility.
But I know where I stand on the theistic religions, if that's what you're talking about.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by b. frank

Probably not every possibility.
But I know where I stand on the theistic religions, if that's what you're talking about.

Religions have to many personal interpretations and errors, not unlike Darwin.

What have you personally sought out.

godspeed,

freedom

[b. frank]

Originally Posted by freedom

Religions have to many personal interpretations and errors, not unlike Darwin.

What have you personally sought out.

I really don't know why you keep mentioning Darwin. To me, the writings of Dostoyevsky, for example, are more important.

And forgive me if I would rather not discuss my spiritual growth with combative Christians.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by b. frank

I really don't know why you keep mentioning Darwin. To me, the writings of Dostoyevsky, for example, are more important.

And forgive me if I would rather not discuss my spiritual growth with combative Christians.

I don't call myself a Christian, and I am far from combative...sorry the exchange wasn't fruitful..

godspeed,

freedom

[b. frank]

Originally Posted by freedom

I don't call myself a Christian, and I am far from combative...sorry the exchange wasn't fruitful..

S'ok. I didn't realize that you are not a Christian, freedom.
Let us know how you do identify - if you care to.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by b. frank

S'ok. I didn't realize that you are not a Christian, freedom.
Let us know how you do identify - if you care to.

I am a seeker that desires to become one with Christ.
When i am one with Christ, He will say what i am.

godspeed,

freedom

[b. frank]

Originally Posted by freedom

I am a seeker that desires to become one with Christ.
When i am one with Christ, He will say what i am.

In that case, I truly do not understand why you don't call yourself a Christian.
But that's another "brick wall" debate so call yourself whatever you like.

[HsvMike]

Originally Posted by b. frank

Keep coming up with theories about how a creator God operates and I will continue to reject them as unsubstancial and irrelevant. No censorship - just a total philosophical rejection of ideas that I believe to be false and wrong.

So no matter what theories or evidence is brought forward, you will not take them into consideration? That is "blind faith" if I have ever seen it. Something that a/a's accuse believers of daily.

[Alpha8207]

Originally Posted by Alpha8207

By the way Troop, I don't think Darwin was a racist.

Not that it really adds/detracts from the conversation, but I have since changed my opinion on this statement.

It does appear that Darwin was indeed racist.

I mean, if you believe any race is a 'favored' race, I guess that would make you racist by definition.

Right?

[bigthirsty]

I think AiG saying in the footnotes "Most ID advocates are not biblical creationists, for they believe in a billions-of-years-old universe and a big bang, reject a global Flood, etc." is a bit misleading. Since they provide no source for this statement... (I guess its just what they think) lets review the facts:

Stein ridicules the scientific establishment for dismissing the work of ID "scientists"
Some ID "scientists" are bank rolled by the Discovery Institute
Discovery Institute is funded by Howard Ahmanson Jr Discovery Institute True Goals and Financial Supporters

Discovery Institute - Howard Ahmanson

Howard Ahmanson, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At worst.. ID is the cousin of Biblical creation. In reality ID is just creation all dressed up for her first day of school.