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Old 10-28-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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Is Jesus the most famous liberal of all time by defintion.Yes or No?I know I spelled independent wrong,

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Old 10-28-2010, 10:54 PM
 
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Jesus had long hair, a beard, and wore Birkenstocks, so that might lead one to believe he was a liberal.

But that would be a mistake. Jesus in fact believed in a flat tax of only 10%, which is far lower than any liberal would recommend. He also worked construction, which is a pretty blue-dog Democrat occupation.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:02 AM
 
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Is Jesus the most famous liberal of all time by defintion.Yes or No?I know I spelled independent wrong,
Jesus didn't fit neatly into our modern day definitions of "conservative", "liberal", or "independent". IMO, his thinking and actions transcended all of our limited constructs.

If you are really interested in this topic, the web site linked below has some GREAT food for thought. I don't agree with everything the site says, but it the ideas presented definitely doesn't fit neatly into the current rigid constructs people have about Jesus, religion, politics, etc.

Real Jesus,

And, yes you spelled, "independent" correctly. Thank you for asking. Moderator cut: edit

I always use this source to check my spelling on CD forums:

Independent | Define Independent at Dictionary.com

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Old 10-29-2010, 04:07 AM
 
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Trying to place anyone from the Roman-era into the modern political spectrum is basically ahistorical and anachronistic. It's about like asking if Obama is a partisan of Sulla or Marius. From a Christian perspective it's more ridiculous than that as Jesus transcends human politics.
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:34 AM
 
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Trying to place anyone from the Roman-era into the modern political spectrum is basically ahistorical and anachronistic. It's about like asking if Obama is a partisan of Sulla or Marius. From a Christian perspective it's more ridiculous than that as Jesus transcends human politics.
You're good. I absolutely agree. I tried to make a reply but had to give up since (quite apart from the question of a Jewish historical Jesus as distinct from a Christian gospel Christ) it was impossible to fairly assess a Jew of the time in terms of today's society and politics.
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Old 10-29-2010, 06:27 AM
 
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By the stanard of his day he would most probobly be considerd i socialist.
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Old 10-29-2010, 07:17 AM
 
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I think it's wierd he focuses on not the amount but the percentage of one's wealth one gives. Like the lady that only stuck a couple 'pennies' in the offering and he said she gave more than the rich giving gold and silver. However, this is given for God's work, not mans. So yes I believe in a Godly manner there is an element of socialism but Jesus did not dare say whether or not humans are capable of that on a state level, simply said 'give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's and give to God what is God' as well as to obey the laws of the land. He didn't say not to demand change of the laws though. I agree with the idea that Jesus was above state politics. To sum Christ up I'd say radical.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:28 AM
 
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Jesus said that he and his disciples were no part of the world (John 17:16). He did not get involved in the politics of his day... when the crowd came to make him King he left and went into the mountains. (John 6:15). Why? Because it was not the way or the time that God intended him to rule...

His Kingdom was no part of this world as he later told the Roman governor. (John 18:36)

James 4:4 brings out that friendship with the world means enmity with God. It is a serious thing because as 1 John 5:19 says the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one and in
John 14:30 Jesus refers to Satan as being " the ruler of this world.". So if he/they were to support any political party at all, he would have come under Satan's control...

He and his followers remained politically neutral. (they still do)

The only Kingdom they supported was God's.
Secular sources support that fact.

(The Rise of Christianity E W Barnes p 333; History of Christianity E Gibbon pp 162, 163)
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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I tend to think that Jesus would would be fed up with all of 'em, but most upset with the Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson end of the spectrum.
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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