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Old 04-01-2008, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Oz
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No.. it isn't

All translations have their errors.. none are perfect.
So god was around to inspire and make sure that the writing of the bible was perfectly accurate, but when it came time to translate it he just blew it off and let all those errors happen?
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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So god was around to inspire and make sure that the writing of the bible was perfectly accurate, but when it came time to translate it he just blew it off and let all those errors happen?
And since he is all-knowing, he saw it coming..
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Netherlands
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So god was around to inspire and make sure that the writing of the bible was perfectly accurate, but when it came time to translate it he just blew it off and let all those errors happen?
You're asking the wrong person Red.. I don't believe in supernatural beings.

According to the going definition of the word..

I'm an atheist.

But a deeply religious atheist.. nevertheless.. :-)
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:43 AM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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So god was around to inspire and make sure that the writing of the bible was perfectly accurate, but when it came time to translate it he just blew it off and let all those errors happen?
Every sacred scripture is perfectly accurate, but we need to develop and hone our intuition to extract the meaning contained there.

It is like this because spiritual masters who had the revelations that became the scriptures, wrote them in such a way that it will inspire the common man, but will only reveal it's meaning to the serious spiritual aspirant
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:00 PM
 
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Default The Knowledge of the Heart

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Every sacred scripture is perfectly accurate, but we need to develop and hone our intuition to extract the meaning contained there.

It is like this because spiritual masters who had the revelations that became the scriptures, wrote them in such a way that it will inspire the common man, but will only reveal it's meaning to the serious spiritual aspirant
As one "serious spiritual aspirant" to another.. I agree.. that's true..:-)

Even though there are many translation errors.. the message.. as a whole.. can still get across.. because it gets repeated and reworked continually.. throughout the entire book.

So.. once we see the big picture.. there can be no doubt.

And.. this is the BIG picture..

The Truth!

The-Dream-of-The-Ridiculous-Man-Dostoyevski-Text-Version


As St Paul rightly says..

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"For we are not writing you things except those which you well know or also recognize; and I hope you will continue to recognize to the end.. " - 2Corinthians 1:12
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Meaning - IT IS - the Knowledge of our own Hearts..


What further proof do we need than this.. ?

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"For the exhortation we give does not arise from error or from uncleaness or with deceit, but, just as we have been proved by God as fit to be entrusted with the good news, so we speak, as pleasing not men, but God, who makes proof of our hearts."

1Thessalonians 2:3

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Old 04-01-2008, 12:52 PM
 
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God is not a belief, but an experience.

To categorize god as a belief is like saying a piece of sheet music is the symphony. You look at the notes on a page they are pretty bland. They are not the music. You experience the music.

Someone can say "I don't believe in music" but that doesn't make music go away, it just means they are deaf.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:03 AM
 
Location: PA
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Default To believe

God Exists.

For us human to believe that there is a God, means that we must let go of our own selfish desires to have to know everything. To let go our pride. To let go of out lustful desires.

God is difficult to understand because he is creator and not created. There is no beginning to Him or end and there is no greater god that has created him. Because we are created in a created world, it is difficult for us to understand someone that was not created.

So to believe in God is not giving some ambiguous fix all to the questions of life. Many people think that God is a crutch. A way to explain the things that we don't understand. It is like saying why is there pain and suffering and giving the answer God, or where do we go when we die...God, or who is responsible for my pain or problems or our condition...God. God is not the problem. He is not the fix to our limited questions. But he is the answer.

The answer that God gives is not the answer that humans want. We want for God to say that you have the power to heal yourself, destroy your enemies, or bring back your loved one from the dead. We want the power to be God, but there is only one God and He cannot give up his position and power. But, He has the answer to our problems. He wants to heal us, and to draw us to himself. He wants us to love our enemies because our enemies are still his creation. He wants us to be comforted at loss of loved ones. But he wants a greater solution to our problems. He want for us to accept what His son Jesus Christ did on the cross to be sufficient to cover our sin. He wants us to let Jesus come into our hearts and make our hearts his throne. He wants to come into us to live so that we are in unison with Him just as Jesus is in unison with the Father. For it is written "Behold oh Israel the Lord is God, the Lord is one (unity)". When Jesus lives in us we go beyond our sickness and we receive peace and joy in Christ in our sickness. We receive peace in the midst of the storm or war. The world gives peace by taking away the war, but Jesus gives peace in the midst of the war while bullets are flying over head. Jesus alows us to go through this world with all of it's pain and problems with an end in sight. We can see God and how all things work together for good for those who love and fear him (to fear God means that we know he has the power to send us to hell, but He has the Love that will draw us to Himself (like electricity, it can kill, but the benifits out weigh the potential danger)).
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:54 PM
 
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They have confidence that a higher power exists.
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Old 04-02-2008, 06:09 PM
 
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To categorize god as a belief is like saying a piece of sheet music is the symphony. You look at the notes on a page they are pretty bland. They are not the music. You experience the music.

Someone can say "I don't believe in music" but that doesn't make music go away, it just means they are deaf.

Whoa! Now you're talkin' June's language!

Sounds to me like DimSumRaja has connected the music with the band...


Take gentle care.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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But a deeply religious atheist.. nevertheless.. :-)
Perplexing.
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